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high-n-tight Posted - 07/20/2010 : 14:37:48
http://www.mdjonline.com/view/full_story/7867200/article-Marietta-approves--budget-without-tax-hikes-or-reserves


Reading this link I guess the 643 group is getting the park off aviation drive. This should give more places to play. I assume everybody thinks this is great news for youth baseball in marietta.
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highcheese99 Posted - 04/24/2013 : 12:28:22
I still think it was a sweet heart deal for 643. A deal most business and baseball people would have jumped at given the chance. Affordable for the average joe. Facility looks great,
I still stand by my original thought that the park should have been paid for outright by 643 and upgrades and improvements as well, not by City Taxpayers. It is however good for baseball so that is good in itself, I am not sure how many teams they have over there now or the quality of each one, but I see the 643 logo as much as the ECB logo.
in_the_know Posted - 04/23/2013 : 23:35:21
Thought this thread was worth resurrecting. It's been about 3 years since this first popped up. What are the opinions now? My son has been fortunate enough to have played some tournaments on these fields and the quality of the playing surface is as good as it gets anywhere. The tournament updates could stand some improvement but other than that, this has proven to be nothing but GREAT for the players in metro Atlanta in my humble opinion.
Shut Out Posted - 08/14/2010 : 16:59:24
quote:
Originally posted by excoach12

Like bball said, most higher level EC teams are already picked before tryouts. At tryouts they are just looking for 1 or 2 to fill out the roster. Players heading to 643 know they have a better chance of making a 643 team then they do an EC team because they know EC has not come calling for them.
As much as 643 supporters want to believe their program is better than ECs it just isn't. Not now at least.
Go to the Perfect Game website and look up their national ranking of travel teams in all age groups. You will have a hard time arguing that PG does not have the best intel on travel ball teams. They rank the top 25 and then have a list of honorable mentions. Here's what you'll find:
14U- EC Astros #1, EC Titans #17, no 643 team
15U- EC Astros #2, EC Braves HM, EC Titans HM, 643 HM
16U- EC Titans #17, no 643 team
17U- EC Astros 16 year olds #4, EC Astros 17 year olds HM, 643 HM
18U- EC Braves 17 year olds #2, EC Yankees #8, 643 #25, EC Braves HM
So across 5 age divisions EC has 7 top 25 teams, none above #17, with 5 in the top 10 plus 4 HMs. 643 has 1 team in the top 25 at #25 with 2 HMs. EC also has 2 teams ranked in the top 4 in the age group above them.
Sorry. But as of now, there is just no comparison between the two programs. Lets look again in 5 years and see what 643 has done.

And to Shut Out- As much as we would all like to think DP and his program is above money and just doing this for the benefit of the kids you have to be realistic. 643 is his BUSINESS. Look at his prowess in getting the fields from the county. He will field as many teams as he possibly can and maximize his revenue. He is a BUSINESSMAN.


643 15U won the perfect game national tourney this year.
bmoser Posted - 08/14/2010 : 09:14:30
EC is a mature facility/program. 6-4-3 is in its early growth phase. At their current trajectory, I can easily see 6-4-3 catching up in # of fields and teams at some point. However, EC will still be able to boast of more Major League alumni, and College players developed, for many years to come due to their head start. It will be fun to watch, and the players will benefit greatly by the efforts of each.
bballman Posted - 08/13/2010 : 21:31:59
excoach12, you are absolutely right about the rankings and notoriety surrounding the top EC teams. No question about it. However, right now, 643 is developing a true "program", at least from what I have observed. All coaches are hand picked, all coaches are on board with the 643 way of doing things and they are all about player development. I also agree that it is a business. It's not cheap and you wind up paying for that development. The advantage to ECB is the notoriety and attention you automatically get by being a top EC team. It's a given.

So, will 643 catch up to ECB by continuing to put out quality trams? Only time will tell. But, in my opinion, DP seems to be going about it in the right way. And that should bring that attention as they put out good teams.
excoach12 Posted - 08/13/2010 : 11:44:13
Like bball said, most higher level EC teams are already picked before tryouts. At tryouts they are just looking for 1 or 2 to fill out the roster. Players heading to 643 know they have a better chance of making a 643 team then they do an EC team because they know EC has not come calling for them.
As much as 643 supporters want to believe their program is better than ECs it just isn't. Not now at least.
Go to the Perfect Game website and look up their national ranking of travel teams in all age groups. You will have a hard time arguing that PG does not have the best intel on travel ball teams. They rank the top 25 and then have a list of honorable mentions. Here's what you'll find:
14U- EC Astros #1, EC Titans #17, no 643 team
15U- EC Astros #2, EC Braves HM, EC Titans HM, 643 HM
16U- EC Titans #17, no 643 team
17U- EC Astros 16 year olds #4, EC Astros 17 year olds HM, 643 HM
18U- EC Braves 17 year olds #2, EC Yankees #8, 643 #25, EC Braves HM
So across 5 age divisions EC has 7 top 25 teams, none above #17, with 5 in the top 10 plus 4 HMs. 643 has 1 team in the top 25 at #25 with 2 HMs. EC also has 2 teams ranked in the top 4 in the age group above them.
Sorry. But as of now, there is just no comparison between the two programs. Lets look again in 5 years and see what 643 has done.

And to Shut Out- As much as we would all like to think DP and his program is above money and just doing this for the benefit of the kids you have to be realistic. 643 is his BUSINESS. Look at his prowess in getting the fields from the county. He will field as many teams as he possibly can and maximize his revenue. He is a BUSINESSMAN.
643mom5 Posted - 08/13/2010 : 08:27:03
There are Dads as head coachs for 643, however Danny and picks his coachs very carefully.
643mom5 Posted - 08/13/2010 : 08:24:50
The 643 9u-12u was on July 12 which was before EC.
touchemall Posted - 08/12/2010 : 23:08:26
643 did most of theirs three weeks before ECB so I would say it is the other way around. And bballman, MOST of 643's teams have dads involved. Dads with baseball backgrounds and Danny's trust to mentor them as he would. Has to be that way because Danny and his professional coaches spend a majority of their time with the 15 to 18U teams once HS season is over trying to get them ready for the next level.
Shut Out Posted - 08/12/2010 : 22:54:56
After seeing the 3 12U rosters I am very impressed. I was at the 12U tryout and there were maybe 90 kids max but that doesn't count the 30 or so that may have had something on the side. As to Dad coaches. I don't see it as a problem as long as the kid can play and the dad can separate and coach. I belive the head coach of the Jags has a kid on the team. The coach of the jags has no kids. DP may have a kid on the team which is never a problem. i was just questioning how many teams he is growing so fast comparing to ECB. When i look at ECB having 6-9 teams at the 12U age group it gets a little obvious its about money. Hopefully 643 will stay with their strength.
in_the_know Posted - 08/12/2010 : 22:06:08
643 tryouts were all completed before the ECB tryouts. Most of their teams were already finalized before the ECB tryouts. Nothing to "fall-back" to at 643 if you don't land your ECB choice.
bballman Posted - 08/12/2010 : 22:02:04
643 tryouts and commitments were before ECB tryouts. It's more like try out for 643 and if you don't make it, tryout for ECB. I'm sure they planned it that way. But I don't think the 643 tryouts were for ECB rejects. Of course, as talked about in other posts, most ECB teams are decided before tryouts. Most teams just looking for maybe a couple of guys.
coach0512 Posted - 08/12/2010 : 20:21:08
When were the 643 tryouts vs the EC tryouts?
I wonder if any of those at 643 went there in case they don't make an EC team?
How many were there to get in a practice eval before the EC evals?
I don't know any of these answers but I am curious if there is a sentiment out there that if you don't make an EC team then you can "fall back" on 643.
I personally think 643 has a heck of a program and stands on its own merits, but whats the feeling at large?
bballman Posted - 08/12/2010 : 17:40:23
quote:
Originally posted by baseballready

quote:
Originally posted by bballman

My understanding is there were 220 kids at the 12u 643 tryout. I would say that is plenty to choose 3 teams from. None of 643 coaches are dad coaches. There were 65 kids at the 17 & 18 tryouts. My understanding is 80% of them were for the 17 team. From the talent I saw, they could have made 2 exceptional 17u teams. However, they are not because they do not have the quality coach they need for that yet. I think these guys are doing things the right way. JMHO. We'll see how it turns out in the long run.


Not accurate to say none of the coaches are dad coaches, unless pure coincidence that 643 owner/12U manager/player all have the same last name.



You're right. I noticed that after I posted this as well. Still a lot of teams without dad coaching.
bballman Posted - 08/12/2010 : 17:35:43
quote:
Originally posted by bkball

quote:
Originally posted by bballman

My understanding is there were 220 kids at the 12u 643 tryout. I would say that is plenty to choose 3 teams from. None of 643 coaches are dad coaches. There were 65 kids at the 17 & 18 tryouts. My understanding is 80% of them were for the 17 team. From the talent I saw, they could have made 2 exceptional 17u teams. However, they are not because they do not have the quality coach they need for that yet. I think these guys are doing things the right way. JMHO. We'll see how it turns out in the long run.


More like 120 not 220.



I thought I had heard 220. I wasn't there, so I am probably. Still, 120 trying out to pick 42. I would imagine they could get some pretty good kids out of that group. I know in the 17 & 18 group, out of 65 kids they could easily put more than one team per age group together with the talent. Tons of very good ball players showed up.
bmoser Posted - 08/12/2010 : 17:29:06
Some said 6-4-3's 2nd 11u team would be weak before they ever played their first game, yet the Jaguars wound up a top 10 team. Recently, 120 kids show up for 33 spots for the 3 12u teams, and they keep adding quality teams at every age group. Then there's the 6-4-3 DP Academy Park that seems within reach. 6-4-3 has a tremendous amount of momentum.
touchemall Posted - 08/12/2010 : 17:17:17
Every team up thru 13U has a dad on the staff. 12U had 4 last year I believe. But Danny is very picky about who he lets out there.
bkball Posted - 08/12/2010 : 16:24:41
quote:
Originally posted by bballman

My understanding is there were 220 kids at the 12u 643 tryout. I would say that is plenty to choose 3 teams from. None of 643 coaches are dad coaches. There were 65 kids at the 17 & 18 tryouts. My understanding is 80% of them were for the 17 team. From the talent I saw, they could have made 2 exceptional 17u teams. However, they are not because they do not have the quality coach they need for that yet. I think these guys are doing things the right way. JMHO. We'll see how it turns out in the long run.


More like 120 not 220.
baseballready Posted - 08/12/2010 : 11:38:56
quote:
Originally posted by bballman

My understanding is there were 220 kids at the 12u 643 tryout. I would say that is plenty to choose 3 teams from. None of 643 coaches are dad coaches. There were 65 kids at the 17 & 18 tryouts. My understanding is 80% of them were for the 17 team. From the talent I saw, they could have made 2 exceptional 17u teams. However, they are not because they do not have the quality coach they need for that yet. I think these guys are doing things the right way. JMHO. We'll see how it turns out in the long run.


Not accurate to say none of the coaches are dad coaches, unless pure coincidence that 643 owner/12U manager/player all have the same last name.
AllStar Posted - 08/12/2010 : 09:01:03
quote:
Originally posted by Shut Out

Is there really anything wrong with telling your kid he should enjoy rec ball work on his own to improve then try and make a team next year?



Not at all. That is a great answer. However, at the park my son played at between 10 and 11 19 of the top 20 players left rec for travel. It eventually built back up, but that 11YO year was pretty lean for rec.
bballman Posted - 08/12/2010 : 08:25:20
My understanding is there were 220 kids at the 12u 643 tryout. I would say that is plenty to choose 3 teams from. None of 643 coaches are dad coaches. There were 65 kids at the 17 & 18 tryouts. My understanding is 80% of them were for the 17 team. From the talent I saw, they could have made 2 exceptional 17u teams. However, they are not because they do not have the quality coach they need for that yet. I think these guys are doing things the right way. JMHO. We'll see how it turns out in the long run.
Shut Out Posted - 08/11/2010 : 15:27:13
happy for the 643 guys. Howeve the money is already watering down the level of competition just like it did @ ECB. The top couple of teams are fantastic but after that it looks to be more about the green than the team. A 3rd 12U team a second 11U team for a program just going into its 4th year may be stretching it a bit. I will hope for the best for you guys but would hate to see it get like ECB where they will let any dad whose kid can't make another team start a team to add to the watered down travel ball as it is. Is there really anything wrong with telling your kid he should enjoy rec ball work on his own to improve then try and make a team next year?
LeftyBat Posted - 08/11/2010 : 11:19:26
quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

LeftyBat:
There is a group trying to get a premiere facility off the ground at I-85 just East of Chateau Elan. Its called Signature Park. They have bought the land, and made some improvements (enough for 1 or 2 practice fields), but seem to lack funding to move forward in this economy.

I think a location just off 400 in North Forsyth would work too. Land is still affordable there. Near Hwy's 306 or 369 for easy East-West access. There are tons of empty hotel rooms every F,Sat,Sun along the 400 corridor in Alpharetta for travel ball players to use.








Yes I heard about that, considered taking my son over there this last year. You are right about the GA 400 corridor. Tons of talent in the local area, good coaching with no place to go...
jongamefan Posted - 08/11/2010 : 11:18:57
Lefty , as a Gwinnettian I can tell you this Sig PArk development is further along than most persons know .

It will be a few more years and what we hear is yes the funding is an issue.

But it will happen .

quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

LeftyBat:
There is a group trying to get a premiere facility off the ground at I-85 just East of Chateau Elan. Its called Signature Park. They have bought the land, and made some improvements (enough for 1 or 2 practice fields), but seem to lack funding to move forward in this economy.

I think a location just off 400 in North Forsyth would work too. Land is still affordable there. Near Hwy's 306 or 369 for easy East-West access. There are tons of empty hotel rooms every F,Sat,Sun along the 400 corridor in Alpharetta for travel ball players to use.






ItsjustLLBBall Posted - 08/11/2010 : 11:14:09
I have a feeling that it will be nothing shy of a first class facility. Congrats to Danny and good luck....

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