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Newbie BB Mom
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 Posted - 01/15/2019 : 12:40:13
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Amen, wareagle!
On a side note, I saw a comment in the new GA Dugout Club Preview that both broke and warmed my heart. I don't have the issue in front of me, but I think it was one of the "Big Ten" kids who was asked if he had all the money in the world what would he do with it, and he said he would make it possible for other kids who don't have a lot of money to participate in travel ball and showcases.
I wanted to give that kid a hug when I read that. This is indeed an expensive sport and I suspect many families struggle to keep up and provide the kinds of opportunities others are fortunate enough to be able to give their ball players.
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Critical Mass
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Posted - 01/16/2019 : 08:46:48
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| For what it's worth, my son never attended a single showcase, was primarily the smaller guy on the field in most cases and was never considered projectable. He worked hard, played P5 ball, was an all american and is now playing Milb. It can happen. |
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SuperStar
257 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2019 : 11:40:21
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That's great Critical Mass! I always like to hear success stories. Congrats to your son!
I don't suppose you could disclose what team he plays on, or what his name is can you? |
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Punishers
688 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2019 : 13:36:28
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| Tax free money. People will be priced out. You would think a sport where parents are spending that much money would at least give 100% scholarships, but colleges will be cutting baseball from their sports program because it does not bring in money like football or basketball. |
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SuperStar
257 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2019 : 16:01:50
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Originally posted by Punishers
Tax free money. People will be priced out. You would think a sport where parents are spending that much money would at least give 100% scholarships, but colleges will be cutting baseball from their sports program because it does not bring in money like football or basketball.
I highly doubt baseball will be cut from colleges. It's been around for along time. This may sound good on paper, but it won't hold water.
If this were true, then the MLB would go out of business. And that is definitely not happening. Baseball is America's pass time. You know that Punishers.
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Newbie BB Mom
141 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2019 : 16:03:59
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Originally posted by Punishers
Tax free money. People will be priced out. You would think a sport where parents are spending that much money would at least give 100% scholarships, but colleges will be cutting baseball from their sports program because it does not bring in money like football or basketball.
It brings in tuition dollars from the kids who want to play baseball. Most of them paying the full freight or close. |
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hshuler
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Posted - 01/16/2019 : 16:21:11
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Originally posted by Punishers
Tax free money. People will be priced out. You would think a sport where parents are spending that much money would at least give 100% scholarships, but colleges will be cutting baseball from their sports program because it does not bring in money like football or basketball.
I forget the exact number but only a handful of baseball programs actually generate a profit. |
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Newbie BB Mom
141 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2019 : 09:23:44
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Originally posted by hshuler
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Originally posted by Punishers
Tax free money. People will be priced out. You would think a sport where parents are spending that much money would at least give 100% scholarships, but colleges will be cutting baseball from their sports program because it does not bring in money like football or basketball.
I forget the exact number but only a handful of baseball programs actually generate a profit.
In terms of net revenue for the schools, I think it's more than a handful. I suspect there are many smaller private schools that continue to support a baseball program because it draws full tuition dollars from affluent families who have been funneling money into their son's expensive travel ball for a decade.
Many private colleges are teetering precariously when it comes to finances because they offer significant tuition discounts (on average about 50%) to kids with higher academics. (Chasing those higher numbers to boost their US News and World Reports ranking.) They have to pay for these discounts with other full freight students. They find them in foreign students, legacies, and athletes and lower academic students from affluent families.
That's why you'll see private colleges with equestrian teams and lacrosse teams, etc. Most of those kids are paying full tuition and subsidizing the top 25% of kids with 4.0+ GPAs and 1400+ SAT scores. I think that may also be why you see 50-man rosters in the fall at these schools. All those boys have hopes of making the team in the spring. |
Edited by - Newbie BB Mom on 01/17/2019 09:28:44 |
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baseball713
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Posted - 01/17/2019 : 10:39:58
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| I thought the amount of money I spend on my son's baseball was crazy, and he wasn't even on an academy team till this year after Cooperstown. We've always been on a rec park based travel team. Even with the academy team this year, our fees are below $3,000. And then my younger daughter got into competitive gymnastics. The amount of money I spend on baseball pales in comparison to gymnastics. They also train year round, 16 to 20 hours a week, and parents are expected to stay out of the gym. Just drop off and pick up your kids, and wait till the meets to see the skills they have worked on. And these are 7 to 14 year old girls... |
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NF1974
62 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2019 : 11:35:06
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| Just a note of information from a parent of a kid who just finished playing baseball at a D 3 high academic school. My son was given academic money which amounted to 120k ( two years at 60k per year) to go to school. The academic money shrunk to about 70k for the last 2 years and we wound up with student loans of about 40k. he started his first job with an 64k base salary which is below where most of his friends have started at. |
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Punishers
688 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2019 : 14:52:52
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Originally posted by SuperStar
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Originally posted by Punishers
Tax free money. People will be priced out. You would think a sport where parents are spending that much money would at least give 100% scholarships, but colleges will be cutting baseball from their sports program because it does not bring in money like football or basketball.
I highly doubt baseball will be cut from colleges. It's been around for along time. This may sound good on paper, but it won't hold water.
If this were true, then the MLB would go out of business. And that is definitely not happening. Baseball is America's pass time. You know that Punishers.
MLB has been around long before college baseball and will continue to be around as long at they have high schoolers being drafted and international FA signings. Past time or not. It's still a business and no business will continue to sink money into a product that doesn't make a profit. I know 4 kids playing at D1 schools who are paying close to 90% of their costs and are looking at playing lacrosse as well in hopes of subsidizing that 90%. |
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Punishers
688 Posts |
Posted - 01/17/2019 : 14:55:48
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Originally posted by baseball713
I thought the amount of money I spend on my son's baseball was crazy, and he wasn't even on an academy team till this year after Cooperstown. We've always been on a rec park based travel team. Even with the academy team this year, our fees are below $3,000. And then my younger daughter got into competitive gymnastics. The amount of money I spend on baseball pales in comparison to gymnastics. They also train year round, 16 to 20 hours a week, and parents are expected to stay out of the gym. Just drop off and pick up your kids, and wait till the meets to see the skills they have worked on. And these are 7 to 14 year old girls...
Gymnastics get a full ride, so it's worth the investment. Can't say that about baseball. |
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ifly1989
771 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2019 : 09:21:09
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I agree with MOST...While "Daddy Ball" does exist I would not say it is as bad as a lot of folks make it out to be. however one word of caution... Being harder on your son is actually just another form of Daddy Ball.... think about it... if your harder on you kid for doing the same things little johnny does... what message does that send? It tells the parents you are more concerned with his development than that of the others on the team. I know that probably was not you intention but perception is what it is.
In the 10 year history of our program we have placed over 60 kids in college, with most on scholarship. Other players received preferred walk on offers. ONE common denominator among all of them... GOOD GRADES. None of these kids were superstars but they worked there butts off on the field and in the classroom and they were successful. Bottom Line there is a place for many players at the next level and ample $$$ for academics + Baseball. |
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GRenegades
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Posted - 01/26/2019 : 10:16:25
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Originally posted by Newbie BB Mom
Amen, wareagle!
On a side note, I saw a comment in the new GA Dugout Club Preview that both broke and warmed my heart. I don't have the issue in front of me, but I think it was one of the "Big Ten" kids who was asked if he had all the money in the world what would he do with it, and he said he would make it possible for other kids who don't have a lot of money to participate in travel ball and showcases.
I wanted to give that kid a hug when I read that. This is indeed an expensive sport and I suspect many families struggle to keep up and provide the kinds of opportunities others are fortunate enough to be able to give their ball players.
This is why we started Georgia Renegades Baseball in Suwanee, GA.
We offer the travel ball experience to players who have outgrown the Recreational league, "Daddy" ball/political garbage that many associations can't seem to outgrow. Our fees are $500/player, we provide 4 full uniforms, 10 tournaments, individual private workouts, non-paid collegiate coaches and a AA (11U)/AAA (12U) travel ball experience starting at 11U (where we believe travel baseball should start for most players). We fundraise like crazy to provide this opportunity to players who talented enough to join our program, regardless of their socio-economic status.
If you know of a player in North Georgia who is interested, please feel free to send them our way as we are looking for 1-2 players at 11U (AA) and 1 player at 12U (AAA).
Thanks,
Dennis
Georgia Renegades Baseball, General Manager
dennis@georgiarenegades.com
404-702-5417 |
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743
215 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2019 : 13:17:40
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| Just curious so $500 total or are you also required to fund raise over that? Sounds like a great deal. |
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GRenegades
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Posted - 01/28/2019 : 15:18:49
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Originally posted by 743
Just curious so $500 total or are you also required to fund raise over that? Sounds like a great deal.
$500 total. We have business partnerships and organizational fundraising activities throughout the year that cover the rest. We're a true 501c3 without anyone who gets paid ... all the money is for the kids.
We do have a couple player-driven fundraisers for our Cooperstown participants which also teaches them about public speaking, service, leadership, etc. to raise money for their trip.
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