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Newbie BB Mom

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  08:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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If you have a low gpa with honors that is not as good as high gpa without as far as getting in school for sports. We are talking sports and there are High Academic schools that will get you in if you throw 90 plus.


No, not if you have a 2.6 gpa and poor test scores, they won't. As CaCo says, they need kids who can actually pass their classes while playing baseball. A kid like that would struggle to remain academically eligible at Ga. Tech or Vandy or Stanford, even with all the tutoring and support. How does that help the baseball coach?

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Probably safe to say 90 percent of the people on this board will not or do not have kids playing div 1 baseball. Even less go to Ga Tech.


But also probably safe to say that the other 10 percent of us do, and that many of us here know some of those 10 percent. This town is lousy with great baseball talent. Most of us with kids playing in the older age groups know kids playing, or going to play, D1 ball (including at Ga. Tech).
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CaCO3Girl

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  08:13:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jbarley

If you have a low gpa with honors that is not as good as high gpa without as far as getting in school for sports. We are talking sports and there are High Academic schools that will get you in if you throw 90 plus.

Probably safe to say 90 percent of the people on this board will not or do not have kids playing div 1 baseball. Even less go to Ga Tech.




From GA tech admissions website:
When evaluating your application for freshman admission, we are very interested in understanding how you stretched and challenged yourself relative to the curriculum that was available at your school. Georgia Tech is looking for students who demonstrate intellectual curiosity and aren’t afraid of a challenge!

You should demonstrate success in the most rigorous curriculum available at your high school, such as:

Advanced Placement
International Baccalaureate
AICE Program
Dual Enrollment

So, yes, some colleges want to see that you had honors and or AP classes as part of their admissions requirements. High GPA no honors they wonder why you didn't challenge yourself and are you really ready for tougher courses. Low GPA with honors, you obviously can't cut it.

This also isn't for only Division I. Try getting int Johns Hopkins, MIT or Emory (All D3's) with crud grades, even if you are throwing 90...not going to happen. Lots of academically challenging DII, DIII, and NAIA that have a tough admissions process. Remember a baseball player in college is called a student athlete, NOT an athlete student. The student portion comes first.
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tbaillie2

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  08:43:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
High academic schools look at all of it, so low gpa w/ honors v high gpa w/o is relative (how high/low are you suggesting).

As noted 99.99% won't go on to make a career playing baseball. The comment on grades helping round out teams, even 'high' Div 1 rings very true. With the scholarship metrics (11.7 or whatever it is now, and 18 at least getting some form of that) say half of div 1 teams kids don't get athletic money. Obviously a kid has to be able to compete and make the program better, but grades are huge for those last spots - plus, when talking 'better' academic Div 1 and then Div 3 - you have to have the grades.
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Crazyforbball

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  09:49:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are plenty of kids who can do both...play ball AND succeed academically. Therefore, due to the limited number of openings at D1 schools, they have absolutely no reason to "settle." As far as absolute superstars, they will be drafted right out of high school. For the rest, grades are essential and let's not forget all the other "skills" necessary to gain entrance to the top programs or the ivies...like CHARACTER, demonstrated leadership ability, community service, clubs or instruments or student government. So unless you are 100% certain you are one of those 11.7 in the money train, you best be of some worth to the school beyond just throwing a ball 90mph. And high school students are well served to remember the character bit, all the time, not just at PG showcase tournies. Having spoken to someone who has had a lot of interaction with scouts, "you just never know who is watching." Now we all do know our fair share of less than stellar, straight A, community leader types who DID, in fact, play baseball at D1 schools, sure, but to that I say....not all D1 schools or their programs are created equal. Depends on the player's long term goals, and his do not always line up with those of his parents.

Edited by - Crazyforbball on 08/11/2017 10:32:20
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NF1974

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  11:07:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crazyforbaseball- Well said and right on the money
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Shut Out

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  13:42:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jbarley

If you have a low gpa with honors that is not as good as high gpa without as far as getting in school for sports. We are talking sports and there are High Academic schools that will get you in if you throw 90 plus.

Probably safe to say 90 percent of the people on this board will not or do not have kids playing div 1 baseball. Even less go to Ga Tech.





Even if the 90 plus fastball gets you in if your academic ability is not equal to the rigor of high academic school you will be back home faster than your 90 plus fastball reaches home plate!!
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Punishers

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Posted - 08/11/2017 :  14:15:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All depends on the goals. Are you playing to go to school or going to school to play? The student really has to ask themselves. What would I want to do if this baseball thing doesn't work out? The top players will get drafted out of high school. So now the realization of a career outside of baseball comes to mind. The end goal is to make money. Go to school, get an education, get a job and make money. You just want to make sure it is something you are passionate about and not just a check. The baseball world is gritty and a lot of people fail to understand or underestimate the competition. Compare to football or basketball for college, baseball is last on the list. A decent football player can make millions after 3yrs, basketball players can after 6 months (if they go to UK or like and make it to final four). GPA not required for most if not all of them cause it's a money train for the schools. Become a student first, athletics are 2nd maybe 3rd, no matter if it's D1, DII, D3 school.

Edited by - Punishers on 08/11/2017 14:23:46
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