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Kidplaysball

12 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2018 :  13:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Will the title stay in GA or will Florida and NC prove to be too strong?

RBIKING

28 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2018 :  15:44:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Five Star
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turntwo

902 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2018 :  08:38:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With pool play set, and 2 notables playing in the AA/AAA Triple Crown event (trophy hunting?)

I'd Kennesaw or Squeeze are the two GA teams with a legit shot at bringing it home. Hopefully they don't end up on the same side of the bracket. Gonna take 4-5 bracket wins to do it, which will tax most staffs. All eyes will be on south Atlanta to see who the last team standing in GA is, and bring clarity to 'who's the best' or ranking the top-5 to top-10 in the state.
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Throwgas

7 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2018 :  21:55:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Man, this is a tough tournament every year but such fun to watch. I gotta say the USSSA brass made Pool B so strong it made me double take to make sure I was seeing it right!! Wow!!! Not sure I have seen one stacked like that before. If I had to pick winners of the pools I would say: Five Star, Minion ( survival in that pool! ), Team Xtreme Adiktiv and Kennesaw.
The match ups in the bracket round will certainly determine who has the best chance to win. If I had to pick one I would likely pick Five Star because of their easier pool ( none are easy but easier than the other pools ) and their experience in these Super NIT's speaks for itself however....the draw in that first bracket game is so key. For instance, in the first big TC Spring Frost Kennesaw had a fairly easy pool but their side of the bracket was way tougher than eventual winner Squeeze. Taking nothing away from Squeeze at all, they played who was in front of them and won every game but there was clearly a huge difference in talent each played is my point which means you have to use those big pitchers earlier. Same with this tournament... If you get unlucky and even if you are the best squad and you have to face three team's aces you can be a great team and still not survive. Welcome to the big time in Hot ATL MAJORS!!! .THIS ONE WONT BE EASY...but this Champion will absolutely be ready for ORL in the summer if they can survive this one. It has to be one of the toughest Super NIT's around. I hope the rain takes it easy and the tournament gets played. Thoughts guys?

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Throwgas

7 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2018 :  22:32:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Predictions held up pretty well... Five Star are the Champions... Man, the New Jersey team looked SOLID no doubt hats are off to them. They did have the easier bracket for sure but they had a nice win in pool against ORL Tigers and you don't control the bracket it controls you. This tournament was all we thought it would be but the B bracket in pool is where most people were gathered to watch during pool. Anyone think Gainesville ( GA Braves ) and Squeeze ( old Ninth Inning Dodgers ) would go 0-2!!!??? That bracket was packed with talent so much in fact that no team recovered from having to use so much of their top pitchers for potential poll position in bracket round.
What you have to love about this tournament is the TALENT ... it's typically "the whose who" of travel baseball in the SE. Not sure why some of the Northside top talent ( particularly Smartense/ Titans Blue/ 643/ Astros ) stayed home for this one. Cell Block as missed too it would have been nice to have them as well... I get the fact that some don't play Usssa from long time rivalries or maybe disagreements or something like that but its only one ride South of ATL a year. When these out of town teams come in they want to see what metro ATL and beyond have because it is one of the hottest spots in the country for travelball talent - no doubt! Anyway, to each his own I suppose it just would have been nice to see all the big boys there representing GA is all I am saying.
Which brings me to another point... The USSSA brass has to have this tournament in a better facility! I heard more than several parents and coaches discussing. Case in point, location is difficult to get to at best..facility was sub par... Fields never once groomed... Rest rooms terrible... Just would love to see the jewel of the USSSA sanction at a great facility. No scoreboards most of the tournament, and so forth is not a well run event in most people's opinion that I spoke with particularly who pay $10 a head at the gate. It also is a downer for the visiting teams from far away I am sure. I will say USSSA always has top notch umpires at the major division sites I have seen over the years at this event and WS events. Any chance they ever would move this to the Northside and split the spring and summer SuperNIT?? Anyone know anything about this?
Hats off the the CHAMPS and Coach Josh - Five Star. Congrats to the Kennesaw Team and new comer Team Elite Stealth they both showed well to get to the final 4.
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Kidplaysball

12 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  10:48:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cellblock that low, come on man! The kids are all playing middle school, Kennesaw is the top team, great pitching, great coaching, no doubt they will represent GA well in Valdosta, Anyone who sleeps on Cellblock will be packing early. My only thoughts is which team has deep enough pitching that if a 1-3 starter gets jammed up who has a pitcher that can bail him out and still have enough pitching for the next game when the Master plan goes South.
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CoachTowns

41 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  12:32:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Turntwo is clearly trolling. How could The Most Storied Franchise in Youth Baseball History not be included at the top of
the list? The only reason all those teams went to play that tournament on cow-pasture fields in South Georgia was to dodge the ‘Stros. Come on Man. At least try to be a little more subtle with your trolling.
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turntwo

902 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  12:41:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kidplaysball

Cellblock that low, come on man! The kids are all playing middle school, Kennesaw is the top team, great pitching, great coaching, no doubt they will represent GA well in Valdosta, Anyone who sleeps on Cellblock will be packing early. My only thoughts is which team has deep enough pitching that if a 1-3 starter gets jammed up who has a pitcher that can bail him out and still have enough pitching for the next game when the Master plan goes South.



While I'd have a tendency to agree about Cellblock, it's a new year. They keep everyone? The boys abilities keep track with the course they were on? Time will tell. I know they have won games/tourneys in the fall, but when you're talking 20+ Majors, and having to play 6-8 games, and win at least 4-6 in a row to win it all (bracket) against top teams, THAT is something we've yet to see from Cellblock this spring. The GA/FL is a 5 game shootout. I have to think with Cellblock and Kennesaw in the GA/Fl tourney, they should meet one another to send a GA rep to play the FL rep... But who knows. It's early, but the way I see it, at least those who DID participate, you can't argue the results from on field play.

Edited by - turntwo on 03/19/2018 15:15:50
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JMO

57 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  19:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
DadTowns,

You will realize in the next few years that it is comical to beat your chest about baseball at this age. The top team at 17u is not the fabled Astros, not even close. What is also interesting, there is not 1 kid from the Astros 12u team from 5 years ago on the current team. Astros do well in these younger age groups because the kids have hit puberty earlier than others, but it all catches up and most of these stud 12yr olds are passed by due to development. I know you will not be able to see it now, but come back in 5 years and read this again and it will hit you what I am trying to explain to you. There will be some kid come out of nowhere(rec ball probably) throwing straight cheese, and the fabled 12u kids wont get past 80. But it's a hard thing to comprehend when your kid is the man at 12u. Enjoy that you have a stud team your kid plays for and I do hope he plays actually, and is not that dreaded 13th kid, because that will not help him either.

Parents love to beat their chest, but the reality of my comments ring true year in and year out. It will be tough to possibly eat humble pie through the next 5 years as the makeup of the top teams constantly changes due to a variety of reasons. A 12yr stud is not necessarily a 16yr old stud, but it is very hard to see that now.
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Kidplaysball

12 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  22:39:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JMO,
No one beliieves the astros are any good in the young age groups. It is just fun humor. All teams are regional or national by 14 and if a talented 12 year old keeps his head down and works he will be there in the older age groups. Watching and coaching baseball all weekend all spring and summer, there has to be some humor and some fun.
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Kidplaysball

12 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  23:07:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JMO,
No one beliieves the astros are any good in the young age groups. It is just fun humor. All teams are regional or national by 14 and if a talented 12 year old keeps his head down and works he will be there in the older age groups. Watching and coaching baseball all weekend all spring and summer, there has to be some humor and some fun.
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baseball4now

6 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2018 :  23:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think all teams are SOLID. Some people may consider: one/two ace pitchers SOLID. One or two homerun hitters, a few All-Star infielders or a speedy outfielder could possibly make you SOLID. A team that has all its team dues collected could be classified as SOLID. I tend to believe all the teams here are solid. Any team matched across the diamond can beat you. It is the number teams in the tourney, coaching, player abilities and team preparation for luck that determines team tournament win percentages.
I agree Spring NIT usually draws the best talent and produces great youth baseball entertainment. I think the teams that want to be considered for the top of the food chain play in this type of tourney. (the more the merrier) I believe, this is just my opinion, the teams that pride themselves on state of the art facilities and all 3,000 + dollar dues collected on time are NOT the teams that end up in the final 4 of the tourney with more than 30 + teams. Some exist, more on paper than in tournaments.
So, what is my point? The solid winners, Five Star entourage were sharp from head to toe. (Coaches and Players) I loved those St. Patty day shoes, coaches. I was more impressed with South Forsyth, Oconee Elite and Team Elite Stealth for placing well and doing so under the radar. Kennesaw is playing good baseball and their victory lap is coming back.
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5startigers

15 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2018 :  13:11:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Overall it was a fun weekend. Weather held off just long enough and the play on the field was fantastic. We didn't swing it as well as I expected but at the end of the day our defense and pitching depth was enough to get the job done.
We are in unique situation in North Florida. The competition in our area is very limited. We are forced to travel south or north and the difference between the two are night and day. In south Florida you face teams/coaches that are win at all cost. Teams will have different rosters on Sunday than they had on Saturday and they probably are illegal both days. With the new USSSA age/class rules it has become the wild west in south Florida. Most teams have multiple players from the islands who they claim are 13 year old sixth graders. In November we faced a 6'3" 220lb 6th grader throwing a confirmed 81mph from 50'. We look at our boys (who are all but one in the 6th grade) and laugh at the size differnce. Yet somehow we manage to compete and always seem to be at the park late on Sundays. This is why we love coming to Atlanta. The competition is great,the teams/coaches are well coached and respectful, umpires know the game, and the overall environment tends to be great. Be happy and proud that you guys live in an area where the quality of play and level of coaching is top notch! We will see you guys in May (Super NIT) and July (Club Nationals). If anyone wants to come down play some baseball and hang out at the beach, we would love to host something in Jax. And no Baseball4now you can't have my shoes!
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TbS

102 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2018 :  16:16:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would like to see some of the better 12u teams challenge themselves at the TbS nationals, here at East Cobb, in June. The local rankings are taking care of themselves but to be able to test your team on the National level against the likes of Notorious 9 from NY, Diamond Kings from AL, Panhandle Athletics and Team Xtreme from FL, Renegades from IL, Ohio Elite, Dirty South Bats from TX, Indiana Prospects, Vipers from KY, Dirty South from VA or SD Show from CA is what separates most Major teams. The only local entries we have so far is Squeeze, Georgia Power and Astros Navy. Make sure to keep your eye on this one from a NATIONAL perspective!!
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