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bballman
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 Posted - 02/22/2010 : 11:44:09
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Man, you guys are negative about HS ball. Bottom line is, if you don't want your kid to play, or don't think he is good enough, then don't play.
The fact is, HS ball costs a fraction of what travel ball costs. The kids love it. If you play in the right area, it can be very competitive. From the sounds of it here, tryouts for many of your schools are very competitive. Not everyone makes it. Maybe that is what makes HS ball even better than travel. Any one can find a travel team to play on. Many who do cannot make their HS team. Personally, I am more than willing to pay the fee and do the fundraising for the HS team. I think it builds more of a sense of team than summer ball, more of a sense of community and a really positive allegience to the school.
To answer a previous poster's question, yes, you can move on to the next level without playing HS ball. You can attend showcases and tournaments that are scouted. However, in my opinion, you better have a darned good reason for not playing on the HS team if a recruiter asks you why you are not on the HS team. Could indicate a number of things, including that this kid is not a team player. I don't know for sure, but if I were a college coach, I would be very curious why a kid was not playing for the HS.
Varsity plays 27 games, plus the playoffs if you make it. The schedule is three games per week. It's not exactly a light schedule. If there are rainouts, you make up games on school nights or Saturdays. You could wind up playing 5 or 6 games in a week.
Essentially, HS is what it is. Many of the counties in GA have elected not to pay for sports. No sense in complaining to the schools or blaming the schools. It costs money to play. The county is not giving it up, so it has to come from somewhere. Like I said before, if you want to complain, take it up with the county government that your school is in. Not the school itself or the coaches. |
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mechanicsplus
64 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2010 : 12:14:21
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Originally posted by teddy41
i think your missing the point, if my kid did not play travel due to being to expensive does that mean that now he should pay to tryout or play on a school team? Hello do you understand what public school is?
No, I think I understand. I know that I pay taxes to support free public education whether my child attends or not (he does not). However, others benefit and I have no problem with that. However, that doesn't guarantee little Johnny, or Jill, the right to participate in extra-curricular sports for FREE! As you may have noted from earlier posters, the school systems do not receive public funds for their sports programs for YOUR child. There are no free rides SIR!
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mechanicsplus
64 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2010 : 12:25:13
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In school your paying for the coaches stipend, a scoreboard, cages,dugouts and who knows what else..does anyone ever see a budget from the school? Also your getting about 18-22 games which is about 5 tournaments worth of baseball. And for everyone who complains about dad coaching i will say i see a lot of dad coaches who are better than the school coaches.
I'd like to let this comment slide by, but it's obvious you don't have experience in the areas you Post about. The H.S. Season is 26 games with another 15 possible in the Playoffs. Region 6 (our Metro-Atlanta area) is stock full of tremendous Baseball programs and Head Coaches. Moreover, all the College players I know much preferred playing for their Schools, seeking a State Championship, than they did winning a Summer tournament trophy. I'm not advocating one experience over the other as they both have their place. |
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teddy41
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Posted - 02/22/2010 : 15:21:42
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The fact is, HS ball costs a fraction of what travel ball costs
This is totally wrong or maybe we are not from the same county, our travel team for my younger is about 1k and that includes 10 tournaments. Our school team for my older required $400 worth of fundraising before tryouts, booster club is $650 and then there is a $300 uniform and meal cost not to mention the transportation cost.
SO not sure where the fraction comment comes from |
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bballman
364 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2010 : 16:44:25
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Sounds like a lot for your school. At our school, it is $400 player fee. They are also encouraged to sell $400 worth of coupon books (20 books at $20 each). If they don't sell them, the worst thing that can happen is they have to run. There is also a fundraiser before the HS season starts. Totally voluntary. Parents are also encouraged to sell some sponsorships. Once again, not mandatory. That's about it for us. Any of the fundraising is voluntary. The kids are encouraged to do it, but not forced.
We haven't even been asked to join the booster club. Although it is not a bad thing to do. One of the things you get with a $350 booster club membership is free admittance to all home athletic events for 4 family members. If the 4 family members go to 18 events, it pays for itself. That includes football games, baseball games, soccer games, basketball games, whatever. Not too bad, but we are not required to join.
So, the only "real" money we are required to come up with is the $400 player fee. |
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teddy41
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Posted - 02/23/2010 : 09:19:52
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| Sell coupon books or be punished by running? That is a real modern day way to do it. What if the academic booster club wanted you to do the same as that is where our kids will learn their money in the real world. That may be another topic as why the state of GA ranks so high in athletics and about 35th in education. |
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Sultan
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Posted - 02/24/2010 : 11:35:00
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| Bballman, sounds like you'e getting off cheap. |
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bballman
364 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2010 : 12:22:03
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| I really do think we have a good deal. I kind of misspoke in my earlier post in regard to the coupon books. What actually happened is part way through the selling process, those kids who sold 10 books did not have to run that day. Not really a punishment, but more of a prize for being ahead of the curve on selling them. There is also an incentive for selling sponsorships. They have a $150 sponsorship and a $500 sponsorship. If you sell a $500 sponsorship, you get a $100 refund from team funds. It's all really pretty good. |
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jaguars18
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 19:01:48
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| After all the fundraising before tryouts was done it got worse after. Each kid then had to sell 25 tickets to a braves game within a 2 week period. |
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