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TODDS

153 Posts

Posted - 05/24/2012 :  07:11:27  Show Profile
Just wanted to let people know that all 11U players that were suspended due to the Team Reebok debockle have been reinstated to USSSA. USSSA found overwhelming evidence that these players and parents were deceived by a coach. Please don't judge these kids or families before knowing all details. They just wanted to play ball!! Thx

YardBall463

35 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  09:14:58  Show Profile
Are they eligible for pickup now.
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baseball_fan

72 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  09:29:44  Show Profile
good news!
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CenterField

138 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  09:42:21  Show Profile
TODDS,

I dont think anyone would ever hold 11 year old kids responsible for this mess. They are just innocent pawns in this game of travel baseball. I am glad that USSSA let the kids find new homes for the remainder of this season. I don't think I have ever seen a team get "disbanded" before. I feel bad for the parents as well since they have most likely lost money on this deal.

As a poster mentioned in another thread, I don't think this reflects badly on GA baseball as a whole, but it looks really bad for ECB. I hope this is a wake up call for our whole baseball community, but I doubt it.
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CobbYBB

56 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  10:29:18  Show Profile
Looks like more coach suspensions were handed out.....
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stepoff

92 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  12:03:34  Show Profile
Good for the kids. There are still good coaches at ECB. Those involved in this past weekend's issues do not represent what ECB is about.
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PerfectGame

55 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  19:21:33  Show Profile
I doubt anybody would pass judgement on the kids. At 11 years old they are looking up to their coaches for guidance. This mess falls squarely on the shoulders of the coach. Such a shame. I'm sure there are still good coaches at ECB but it sounds like ECB needs to do a better job of screening/monitoring the activity of their coaches, especially in these younger age groups. A zero tolerance policy would be a good idea.
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Glove Smacker

47 Posts

Posted - 05/25/2012 :  22:28:31  Show Profile
Great news for the players. They should not be punished for their coaches and / or parents bad decisions. Shame on those who do coach on other teams, knowing the rules, and still choose to take a chance on jepordizing their child's baseball future. We all tend to forget sometimes, it's about developing players, having fun, and enjoying the game. It's not always about winning at all costs. Good luck to the players, I wish them well!
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aboutthekids

213 Posts

Posted - 05/26/2012 :  11:00:01  Show Profile
Of course there are "still good coaches" at ECB as you put it.

People are people regardless. People make mistakes. Some make them intentionally while knowing what they're doing is wrong. Others make them intentionally thinking not about cheating anyone but possibly that what they're doing is right for whatever reason, regardless of whether it is or not.

A mistake is a mistake and we are all human and we all make them and I assure you that these are not the only two instances of coaches, parents or others making mistakes this year in travel ball and there is no reason to bring up an organization by name in this instance at all.

It has nothing to do with the organization itself but two or more coaches / people that made the decisions to do what they did based on whatever reason they had for doing it.

At least one of the two wasn't trying to hide or decieve anyone, player, organization, opposing team or parent regardless of him not going by the letter of the law.

ECB is one of the finest organizations in the country and state of Georgia for sure. There are others as well and I promise you if they've been around a while they've had coaches who've made mistakes as well. If they're new to the game, they will indeed have coaches at some point make mistakes also.

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Originally posted by stepoff

Good for the kids. There are still good coaches at ECB. Those involved in this past weekend's issues do not represent what ECB is about.

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Game Time

7 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  18:54:53  Show Profile
Makes you wonder how much of this is really going on across the board? Bottom line..... it's just a shame and really unfortunate to all innocent parties involved.
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tossedout

2 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  20:33:25  Show Profile
The really sad part about the team that was disbanded and the players temporarily suspended is that there were plenty of warning signs that ECB and the parents of these players chose to just ignore. Why, is beyond my ability to understand.
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baseballjunkie0321

10 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  21:51:51  Show Profile
Not sure I agree with the statement "they just wanted to play ball"....as if this was the kids decision. Parents should know full well whether or not their kid is eligible to play for another team....especially with kids that have been playing travel ball for quite some time. While the Coach in question certainly should not have been misleading in any way, the ultimate responsibility lies with the parents.

Instead of trying to find a place to play on an open weekend in the schedule, maybe these kids are better off just being 11 yr olds and having fun outside the ball park.

Just one persons humble opinion.
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CobbYBB

56 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2012 :  23:54:09  Show Profile
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Originally posted by baseballjunkie0321

Not sure I agree with the statement "they just wanted to play ball"....as if this was the kids decision. Parents should know full well whether or not their kid is eligible to play for another team....especially with kids that have been playing travel ball for quite some time. While the Coach in question certainly should not have been misleading in any way, the ultimate responsibility lies with the parents.

Instead of trying to find a place to play on an open weekend in the schedule, maybe these kids are better off just being 11 yr olds and having fun outside the ball park.

Just one persons humble opinion.


Gotta agree with baseballjunkie on this. SNL did a skit about Michael Vick called "really?" that I highly recommend googling. So parents whose kids have been playing for years didn't realize it is not okay to register/play on multiple teams or play down in age - really? Maybe the kids do want to play every weekend, but is that what is best for them? Parents (I'm guilty as well) can go a bit overboard with youth sports. I've seen awesome kids walk away from sports because they were simply burnt out, and no parent wants that.
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baseballdreams

18 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  09:00:46  Show Profile
Baseball Junkie0321
I agree with the statement “the ultimate responsibility lies with the parents”. But not all parents will agree with it enough to say something to the coach. They talk to each other about it and know it’s not right but say nothing because have invested too much time and money. And the one parent that says something is looked at as a trouble maker. And before long they are asked to leave or run off by the coach.
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baseballjunkie0321

10 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  11:05:18  Show Profile
Look, it's one thing to be a parent that can't seem to take a weekend off from travel ball and expose your kid to potential issues by playing for someone else, but it's completely different when your a parent of a kid on a somewhat successful AA team who's roster is frozen and you just happen to be one of the coaches as well. Maybe a parent can claim ignorance, but a coach should know the USSSA roster rules before taking their kid to play for another team. There is a term for that behavior that is probably not acceptable to post in this forum.
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TODDS

153 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2012 :  13:01:43  Show Profile
Nobody knows the facts to this incident other then those directly involved so please do not accuse the parents of knowing or should know the rules etc. Those involved asked all the appropriate questions about playing that wkend and were reassured nothing wrong was being done by playing that wkend. Again, unfortunately we were lied to and deceived into thinking everything was OK by playing.

My point to this thread is that USSSA did right by the kids and reinstating them once the FACTS about this came forth and became obvious that we were mislead. The kids should never have been punished in any way for this and thankfully USSSA agreed.

ToddS
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