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Posted - 08/07/2018 :  18:03:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried to tell our coaches that I wanted my son to be a P.O. this past summer. They laughed. He plays almost every inning in the field and is an average hitter but really doesn’t even focus on hitting anymore. He is going to college as a pitcher and even though he likes to think he may play both ways, he was really recruited as a pitcher and we both know he will realistically be a P.O. in college. I felt that the extra work/ throws in the field would possible have him less rested as a starting pitcher. They did move him from 3rd to 1st a lot to help with that as well as other reasons. In the end it all will work out and the game/ coaches will tell you when to hang up the bat.

Nor cross- truly not trying to be critical of the work out plan. Each kid is different. My only point is to try and make sure it remains a game and not a job at 16. If he is having fun and willing to work that hard then go for it. Mine currently does not work quite that hard, but I have told him that when he goes off to school to be prepared for it to get tougher and be more like a job because at that point they are somewhat paying him to be there .
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Posted - 11/30/2018 :  18:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First WarEagle !!!! ....although tough Football year.

An update since my son is HS Junior and continues to progress as "plus" hitter for HS but no way college level.....plus player at 3B but #1 kid on his ECB team is D1 kid.....my son looks awesome until D1 kid plays. LOL

My son work ethic cannot imagine anyone harder and now that he's gone thru puberty it is him pushing me....Wow. Anyway, no matter how much he gets better hitting and fielding which is competitive for PG/TC he doesn't "jump out" there....one of the pack. His pitching however continues to scale and top percent of his age group and competes against top tier 18U (he's 17U) kids fairly well...dominates 17U kids.

Why am I giving this Bio ?.......because for last six months been doing the college recruiting thing...especially the prospect camps. Like all baseball things most are money grabs.....have to do it for sure but there is a "reality" I wanted to share. This "reality" is that if your son wants to play at next level you need to assess where/how he stands out now....and where he is average or even less. At 16+ you need to shift the focus/reps to whatever he stands out at. You'd think this is no-brainer....but you'd be surprised how many parents resist thinking their son is next Derek Jeter at SS or Cowboys next QB. Allow your son to show his best talents and YES...hide his shortcomings....even if those "shortcomings" are being good b-ball player. To get to next level it is not about being "good" or "competitive"....it's about being able to distance yourself from others.

My feedback is "if" your son wants to truly play college ball then 16U and above you need to think different about what that means and how he scales.....which are hard decisions....it has been for me. Again, this thread was about being a "PO" but this logic can apply to any position and my point is the decision and hard work associated with that decision needs to be made at 16U...why ?....because by Fall Junior HS you will start the journey of trying to get you son recruited. I can tell you from countless tryouts, prospect camps, games, etc. that my son did very good in field and at plate but only time any coaches truly pay attention is when you separate yourself from the pack....for my son that is P....other kids obviously different tracks. Point is ID that with your son early enough to give him a chance to scale to level TRULY needed.
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Posted - 10/05/2019 :  08:53:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
.....and I will add to my post and part of this thread.....my son in now a D2 college P commit....he's very excited. He had offers for low-end D1 but we passed...playing/game-time is still the key....and too many D1 kids sit...probably my son at min would be "developed" in D1 for one-two years.....D2 he will clearly play.

Anyway.....to part of this thread on Velo....I can tell you with 100% certainty recruiters don't seriosly look at kids as P until they hit minimally 85...88 is real #/floor of interest. My son throws 3 TRUE pitches with command and it was only the combo of 86 and 2400 spin rate that got him thru door...he's now 88. Anyway, watching all his teammates and others on hitting if your kid cannot handle 85mph FB then there is little/no chance to scale into college. This is very evident watching kids who are hitters struggle/collapse at 85+...and to be honest my son wears kids out at 86-88 on mound with even his 2nd CB pitch @ 76. My point is this....if your kid is P #1 item/focus is get his velo up. If your kid is positional player his defense matters ONLY if he can hit...and unless you can throw 85 in cage take him to DBATS and get their unlimited monthly plan and set machine to 85+ and have him work on it. While tee work and toft toss are needed to refine mechanics they are worthless unless he is seeing/practicing reps at 85+. When to do this ?.....here is the reality check.....when he hits 16 he should be working on hitting 85+ in cage. My comments are about getting to play college ball and the window is the Summer of his graduating Junior Year, rising Senior HS year.....that Summer b-ball (17U) is the make or break for him and college recruiting....you have until then to get him to the above Pitching or Hitting levels.

You can agree or disagree......but what I am stating is absolute reality with little/no exception......harsh message but one myself and my son had to embrace to do the work necessary. I can back up my inputs not only with my experiences but talks with countless other parents/kids that succeeded and those that didn't....discussions with recruiters and colleges coaches.....these are the bars to get over. Hope this helps.
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