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| baseball 13 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 12:50:17
Last year I completely separated my growth plate in my elbow from bad mechanics. I just recently found out that I now have Little Leaguers shoulder. I took one month off and tried throwing again.I still have some pain in my shoulder. What should I do? |
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| baseball 13 |
Posted - 01/01/2009 : 11:48:48
Thank you for the advice mechanicsplus. Last year when I came back from my injury and did physical therapy and found someone to help me with my mechanics and i felt fine.I have not worked with my instuctor for a LONG time so it probably was my arm motioning and throwing to much.
I pretty sure I will stop pitching for now. Thanks again for the advice, im going to look on that website. |
| baseball 13 |
Posted - 01/01/2009 : 10:33:48
the same thing happened to me last year when i was 13 treg3 |
| mechanicsplus |
Posted - 01/01/2009 : 10:12:48
Baseball13:
You are a very smart young man to be seeking info from experienced people that will help you return to the field and be safe. I am the father of a High School Junior starting catcher. I have researched extensively the subject of arm injuries. My purpose was to protect my son from the unfortunate injuries(s) you and thousands of others have experienced. He plays year round and has never even had a sore arm (he has a rocket!). I AM NOT an expert so do your research! Follow a doctor's recommendations but DO include physical therapy. Not doing anything will not help your arm recover but will allow the muscles to atrophy.
My quick words of advice;
1. STOP Pitching! Play a position until you're physically mature. Elbow growth plates don't close until age 16 (biological, not chronological age). Shoulder growth plates close at age 19 yrs.
2. Your injuries were likely caused by flaws in the pitching motion (notice I said " the pitching motion", not your motion specifically).
3. Reseach pitching arm injuries and the pitching motion @ www.drmikemarshall.com and or any other valid sources you can find (not many out there with his credentials). Without advocating his pitching motion, I would not take likely his life long research results about arm issues! If and when you begin to pitch some again; make sure your pitching motion is as close as possible to the throwing motion a position player uses. Rarely do position players suffer severe arm injuries. It does happen but often they were youth, high school and or college pitchers with compounded stress! Pitchers are taught to throw differently than position players (analyze this yourself).
Contact me if you need more specifics. GOOD LUCK!
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| treg3 |
Posted - 12/31/2008 : 18:45:10
My 13yr seperated his growth plate in his elbow 5 weeks ago. He had to wear a cast for a few weeks and is just now starting pt, mostly stretching exercises due to the fact he doesnt have full range of motion. Dr. said he wouldnt be able to start throwing for atleast another 2 months. |
| jrog76 |
Posted - 12/31/2008 : 14:17:55
Has anyone read any definitive studies on the pros and cons of swimming for the young pitching arm?
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| baseball 13 |
Posted - 12/31/2008 : 10:49:54
hitandrun im 14 years old.I took one month off and the only thing i did over that month was soccer conditioning to stay in shape.I tried throwing 2 days ago and still experienced pain in my shoulder.So i guess ill take a few more weeks off.Im a freshman and was hoping i would be able to try out for my highschool.
Thank you for the advice offspeed.
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| OffSpeed |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 23:16:22
Glad to hear that you went to the doctor.
My son at age 11 suffered from the same upper shoulder soreness. The doctor at Resurgens diagnosted it as Little Leagers Shoulder and forced us to not throw for 6 weeks. My son stated that it did not hurt at all when he was at bat, so we turned him into a EH.
As the time came near for his return to throwing, we slowly stepped him back into a throwing routine. Because it was still a little sore, he developed an unusual throwing mechanic to "baby" the issue. We really laid off for another couple of weeks and ultimately through the end of the season.
He took another three weeks off until Fall Ball started. After the absense of throwing for the 3 additional weeks, two things happened. 1) The soreness completely went away, and 2) It was enough break that he was bale to forget the horrible mechanic that he had developed and re-invented his old style.
Now the doctor did not blame the throwing mechanic as the inury culpret. But the amount and intensity of throwing during the ages of 11-14 when the upper growth plate is still cartledge. In our case the xray showed that the growth plate in the throwing arm was twice as large as the other arm.
During the Fall season, he never experinced any pain. It was a great season for him to rebuild his arm strength which really wanes when you take so much time off.
1) Follow your doctor's instructions.
2) That growth plate nornally disappears around age 13-14
3) Let it heal properly and then you can re-build and resume play
4) Too many people end their ball playing by completely injuring their arm. I hope your case is like my son's and that if you properly rest it, you will be able to return once healed.
5) It is very hard not to play, but you owe it to yourself to heal properly.
Best of Luck! |
| baseball 13 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 21:00:16
Thank you for the website.I'll ask my parents about it,but when i looked at the wepage the dr that i went to was on the list. Dr Achecar.
When i seperated my rotator cuff in my elbow last year when i was 13 I found someone to help me with my mechanics, but I havent worked with him in awhile.
When i got my xrays he said it was "inflamed". He said it wasnt that bad. |
| HITANDRUN |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 20:57:10
I would like to know how old you are? If you are young, I would say don't throw anything for awhile and don't do any exercises at all, no Rubber Bands, no weights, no stretching,no nothing on that arm. Just play. Basketball, Soccer whatever. See a specialist that knows sports injuries,and let him tell you what to do. Don't listen to us yaa whoos or anyone else unless they are qualified. Your body will repair itself if nothing is torn or serious, but trying to strethen it at a young age will do more damage than good. If you are 13 or 14 then I would recommend something else. Swimming would be great too after you have taken a couple of months off but don't throw a baseball. |
| baseball 13 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 19:24:58
First base wont work for me.I went to the doctor and he said that just to rest in for a month and i should be fine. I did what he said but i still hurt some when i throw. Physical therapy is pretty expensive. Is there any type of good exercise I can do at home? |
| shadrach |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 19:18:08
I second the advice about finding an MD that specializes in this stuff. Marvin Royster, Braves MD, does private practice stuff out of Piedmont Hospital. He would be my first call. He's knowledgeable about baseball and the injuries in kids and young adults. Plus, if he can't help you he would know who can. Growth plate issues can turn into prolonged problems if not treated properly. Get to the MD, not a PT. |
| greglomax |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 16:45:10
I would agree on seeing a Dr and let them determine the treatment and therapy. My son had the growth plate seperation in his shoulder at 11. We took him to Dr. Armstrong (what a great Dr name for a sports medicine doctor.  ) at Resurgens. Below is his link. He is the team doctor for Kell and Lassiter.
http://www.resurgens.com/pages/staff/member/84/William_S._Armstrong,_M.D.
He shut Nate down for a while and we slowly brought him back to throwing.
It needs to be x-rayed to see what is going on. This is something you defiately don't want to guess about.
Also, you may want to work with an instructor to examine your throwing motion to make sure you are not mechanically doing something that is putting undue pressure on your elbow and shoulder.
Good luck with getting this seen about and resolved. |
| you are out |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 14:48:20
pyhsical therapy! just resting it will not make it better. with the right excersices your arm and shoulder will be stronger than ever but it will take a lot of work and committment on your part. |
| baseball99 |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 13:51:18
Consult a doctor who specializes in youth sports injuries immediately. Do not throw ANYTHING until this type of doctor says it's OK to do so. If you follow any advice other than this, you will risk long term arm problems.
Just to give you a heads up, you are likely looking at a long rest. |
| beanball |
Posted - 12/30/2008 : 13:15:14
Make sure you keep your school grades up.
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Learn to play 1st base. |
