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10 BB Posted - 02/14/2009 : 18:38:35
The Frost has a new team in it.(Bay Bombers)
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Critical Mass Posted - 03/06/2009 : 12:29:24
TC runs good events. Nothing is perfect, much less satisfies all parties' preferences, schedules or whims. The only minor issue I have is I don't much like the 6 innning tournament pitch limit.
greglomax Posted - 03/05/2009 : 23:53:32
For the record, Triple Crown Tournaments at East Cobb are not hosted by an East Cobb Team. That is strictly a Triple Crown event. The gate fee is revenue that goes to offset their cost of field rental.

PCV Posted - 03/05/2009 : 18:23:36
Greg,
You are correct, no one was eliminated, but one of the teams was sure to play an extra game in bracket play. Not something we wanted to do this early in the year.

Scott,
I am very aware that these organizations have to make a profit to continue. But in any business, you have to make your customers happy and provide a product/service that they are willing to purchase. I am also sure that the ECB team hosting the tournament was hoping for elevated gate fees, but at whose expense? They could have waited until Sunday to get those revenues.

We did voice our opinion when the pools came out and I quoted his response. He was given the opportunity to adjust the matchups, and chose to move game time up and have us play first. Does that mean he listened to our opinion?

As far as ripping them on this page...someone asked the question and I responded.

You are correct that we invited the Astros to our park for a scrimmage and we hope to do it again.

Mic*****e
FB COACH Posted - 03/05/2009 : 16:00:06
LOL...Increasing gate sales??? That's hillarious !!!
We know exactly who requested the match-up... and it had absolutly nothing to do with gate sales,trust me!!!... great ploy on his part though, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which team benifits from a pool play match-up...
It's PCV by the way...
scottwill311 Posted - 03/05/2009 : 15:07:57
PVC,
Have you just realized that these organizations(Triple Crown, USSSA,AAU,etc.) are a business and need profits to continue providing tourneys for the kids? Did you stop to think that maybe someone else requested the EC Astros Vipers matchup,in hopes of increasing gate sales? Do you really think Tony profited from the rainout? Did you consider expenses for staff hotel,tournament T-shirts,auto expenses,paper expense,etc? All he did was insure a game that everybody wanted to see.You played the Astros in a scrimmage,so why are you upset about playing them in pool play?I think the Triple Crown folks have done a great job in Georgia since taking over for Farnsworth. And I think it is unjust to rip them on this page-- express your concerns personally- they will listen!Good day...
greglomax Posted - 03/05/2009 : 15:07:18
To Tony's defense, he puts on a good tournament (except for the player awards for first and second that I give him crap about all the time) and TC pool games do not eliminate teams from moving on to the "Elimination Brackets" like a lot of tournaments do.

I personally like TC tournaments and the rules that they play by. I have never had an issue with they way they were ran.
PCV Posted - 03/01/2009 : 11:37:35
quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

Does anybody think a tournament director puts the teams in a hat (so to speak) and just blind draws for pool play matchups or do you think he does his homework and knows the top teams and tries not to match them up in pool play.


To answer your question...he schedules them by the rule, "noone else wanted to play you" and "I thought it would be a good matchup". He also neglected to show the 13U East Cobb Astros on his list eventhough when talking to the Astros parents (at our scrimmage game 2 weeks ago-when they were not on the list), they have been in the tournament for a couple of months. They were told that they would not appear on the list because it would cause teams to avoid the tournament. I, personally, can't wait to get my refund (minus our part of the $8500 he gets to keep) and steer away from Triple Crown from now on.
baseballpapa Posted - 02/23/2009 : 15:55:09
B Moser described it well. But it doesn't matter what bases the runners are on as ours were on 1st and 2nd not 2nd and 3rd. The pitcher faked a throw to 2nd, but kept the ball in his glove and then proceeded to drift toward 3rd. Runner that was diving back to 2nd was fooled and got up and started for 3rd. Pitcher that was now in the base line tagged our runner out. It worked once and we looked foolish but didn't work the second time and they looked foolish. The 2nd time when it didn't work seemed to give our guys a real boost and also seemd to let some air out of them. Both were fun the first fun for them, the 2nd fun for us.

Now lets say Good Night John Boy to the trick play.
AllStar Posted - 02/23/2009 : 14:43:14
quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

Runner on 2nd and 3rd, pitcher spins around and pretends to throw pickoff to 2nd (but doesnt throw it just pretends). The 2nd baseman and SS pretend to botch not covering the bag and both dive trying to catch the pickoff throw that never was. The center and left fielders also dive for it as the invisible ball goes to the fence. The 3rd base Coach sends the runner home...pitcher throws to catcher...out! 3rd base coach looks foolish.

quote:
Originally posted by ronicard

baseballpapa,
Can you describe the trick play? All of the posting about it has my curiousity piqued.





Somebody tried that on us when the boys were 11 and we were playing an extra inning starting with a runner on second. Our runner just stood on base and laughed. Our hitter put one in the gap and we won.

Their coach made his players look foolish.

Very cool.
bmoser Posted - 02/23/2009 : 13:16:40
Runner on 2nd and 3rd, pitcher spins around and pretends to throw pickoff to 2nd (but doesnt throw it just pretends). The 2nd baseman and SS pretend to botch not covering the bag and both dive trying to catch the pickoff throw that never was. The center and left fielders also dive for it as the invisible ball goes to the fence. The 3rd base Coach sends the runner home...pitcher throws to catcher...out! 3rd base coach looks foolish.

quote:
Originally posted by ronicard

baseballpapa,
Can you describe the trick play? All of the posting about it has my curiousity piqued.

ronicard Posted - 02/23/2009 : 11:19:56
baseballpapa,
Can you describe the trick play? All of the posting about it has my curiousity piqued.
10 BB Posted - 02/22/2009 : 12:02:00
Does anybody think a tournament director puts the teams in a hat (so to speak) and just blind draws for pool play matchups or do you think he does his homework and knows the top teams and tries not to match them up in pool play. I think it would make for some better tournaments if the top teams had to play in pool play. Reason is some of the better teams just have more pitching, playing them on pool play day would force a team to pitch studs on sat. that is if you don't sandbag and we want to win every game.
baseballpapa Posted - 02/22/2009 : 08:42:29
Let's put the trick play thing to bed. A trick play that is used and works is an awesome thing for the fans of the team using it to see. A trick play used and that doesn't work is an awesome thing for the fans of the opposing team to see not work. The play was used against us and worked for them and then used again later and didn't work and you could see the air go out of their players when their play didn't work. It was fun to see both ways and the tricks are part of baseball so get used to it. My hat is off to the coach that plans part of practice letting the players learn something that is fun for them. And just for the record they execute this play the same fundamentally sound way they play the game. I agree that they have a good Coach but our Coaches are also the best that we wouldn't trade for anyone.
panther Posted - 02/20/2009 : 11:36:56
I still think the longhorns have a chance to make some noise this season. I guess we will find out pretty soon. Not long now until the games begin. They got some power and you never know that gives you swingers chance.
greglomax Posted - 02/20/2009 : 11:35:28
The Frost may be on, but may be soggy. Looking at the forecast for next weekend, they are calling for some rain on Friday and Saturday. Of course a lot could change between now and then.
moss21 Posted - 02/19/2009 : 20:22:52
Found a new website for the Bay Bombers www.leaguelineup.com (Find your site) Bay Bombers 10u and state of coarse Florida. Its pretty neat
10 BB Posted - 02/19/2009 : 19:34:58
Actually our team has'nt played 6-4-3, just seen the tricks at the park
Stixxbaseball Posted - 02/19/2009 : 15:28:50
Thanks for your vote of confidence but please don't put that bullseye on our back!! I think the Bombers are the team to beat. There, we are even. (just kidding)
quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

I think STIXX Baseball are the #1 or #2 team in Georgia, they will be the team to beat at most tournaments. As for the Bombers at the Frost, thats a scrappy ball team I don't think weather will bother them,no more than anybody else.

BaseballJunky12 Posted - 02/19/2009 : 14:39:46
I think it is good to use a tricky play to win a ball game. If the other team is going to be fooled by it, why not use your practice of it in a game but the roster moves that 643 made were good and I not sure there is a better coach around than Danny Pralgo. They were fundamentally sound last year. I don't think they are up there with the Bandits and STIXX but they should be good.
JAWS07 Posted - 02/19/2009 : 10:09:36
Must have got your team with it? That is a whole other thread and has been discussed before. Certainly works in a pinch. However, the 643 team does not need to trade trick plays for fundamentals they are already pretty sound.
quote:
Originally posted by 10 BB

I wonder if 6-4-3 will still try those trick plays or have they traded them in for fundamental baseball. You know fall on the ground and flip and flop or uh oh I threw the ball into the outfield .

BBall123 Posted - 02/19/2009 : 09:03:07
Papa,
I have to agree with you and hitandrun, in the top ten teams here in GA there is little difference. the 7,8,9,10 teams are generally 2 pitchers or hitters away from the 1,2,3 teams.in some cases its just a small difference in how the teams approach the game.
I think this 643 coaching thing is out of touch,Im not saying they dont have good coaching.But like you, I think there are a lot of good coaches in these top tier teams.
Ive heard alot of stuff about the trick play thing,I feel it is just a good coach trying to give his team an edge (nothing more-nothing less).
A good coach learns to use the tools he has,some teams have dominating pitching,some powerfull hitting all the way down the lineup,some are mediocre in both these areas and play small ball and use there speed to put preasure on the opposing defense.some teams are blessed to have all these components.
In the top ten teams in Ga there is little difference,a couple of players or a different approach.
There are several teams trying to find there sea legs or gel that were revamped since last spring or even since the fall,this is just a prelude to some great competition from May on out to july. Cant wait to see it!













quote:
Originally posted by baseballpapa

I think HitandRun hit the nail on the head when he said that there was very little difference in the top 10 teams in Georgia this year in 10U. It surprised me to learn that 643 lost 6 of its last 7 games. Is this true? I don't agree that 643 will out coach many teams as most of these top 10 teams also have good coaches or they wouldn't be in the top 10. The Bay Bombers we played in Florida could probably win in Alaska and being that they are only 10 years old I don't believe cold weather will affect them much more than us.

baseballpapa Posted - 02/19/2009 : 05:52:46
I think HitandRun hit the nail on the head when he said that there was very little difference in the top 10 teams in Georgia this year in 10U. It surprised me to learn that 643 lost 6 of its last 7 games. Is this true? I don't agree that 643 will out coach many teams as most of these top 10 teams also have good coaches or they wouldn't be in the top 10. The Bay Bombers we played in Florida could probably win in Alaska and being that they are only 10 years old I don't believe cold weather will affect them much more than us.
JAWS07 Posted - 02/18/2009 : 22:52:53
Those 10 posters obviously know about Coach Pralgo and his ability to produce. They will absolutely gel!
quote:
Originally posted by bmoser

There are 10 posters ranking 6-4-3 in the top 3 of their Frost finalist. These 10 must REALLY like their roster changes made since losing 6 of their last 7 games last season. Will they gel? We'll see real soon...weather permitting :)






10 BB Posted - 02/18/2009 : 22:42:52
I wonder if 6-4-3 will still try those trick plays or have they traded them in for fundamental baseball. You know fall on the ground and flip and flop or uh oh I threw the ball into the outfield .
10 BB Posted - 02/18/2009 : 22:07:27
I think STIXX Baseball are the #1 or #2 team in Georgia, they will be the team to beat at most tournaments. As for the Bombers at the Frost, thats a scrappy ball team I don't think weather will bother them,no more than anybody else.

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