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| Reggie |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 11:34:36
AS I started before me and my son are new to travel baseball. I am hearing about travel teams getting ready for next year which amazes me this season aint even over. I keep hearing about people paying money to tryout? Why would people pay $100.00 to tryout for a team they are going to play for. Ok a field may cost $100.00 to use for a day but what am I paying for? if 50 people tryout that is 5k. where is that money going? arent most coaches volunteering. Run it as a camp or teaching type setup whatever its still a tryout to find the best players to make yhour team the best. Seems they should be paying us to have our my son tryout.
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| jay |
Posted - 06/01/2009 : 15:47:39
ECB fees.... and this is the gospel according to me (however, you'll hear the same speech from the park).
There is only ONE $100 "Tryout/Clinic" fee per player per baseball year. For every player that is submitted on a team's roster and who has not paid the $100 fee, the team will be invoiced $100 per unpaid player regardless of whether that player attended the clinic or not. There is not another $100 fee in the Spring. Like every other baseball organization there is a separate registration fee of $175 per calendar year ($50 if you start in the fall).
To play on an EC team every player needs to have paid the $100 tryout fee plus the $175 (or $50) registration fee. There are some caveats however. Setting aside those players that don't get picked up by a team or choose not to accept a roster spot for reasons of their own, the total fees 100+175 comparable with most every park around. These fees in no way affect what the individual teams set as their budget. As was mentioned above these fees go to cover the expenses at the park (e.g. water, 'lectric, grass) . They do NOT, however, go towards anyones salaries at the park. |
| Reggie |
Posted - 06/01/2009 : 08:26:54
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Originally posted by gabandit
Other than the park fee that is being discussed, there is another approach that has yet to be mentioned. In most travel ball situations, the parents hold the upper hand. There are no contracts that players sign with teams, and if they do sign "something" it is not worth the paper it is written on. Therefore many serious teams charge a "tryout fee" which is really more of a "binder". If your son is chosen for the team the fee is credited towards your team fees. If you do not make the team it is refunded. If you are chosen for the team but you choose to go elsewhere, then the fee is retained by the team.
This method is in response to parents "team hopping" and playing one team off against another... It doesn't fix the problem totally but does help somewhat.
never thought of it that way probably smart move on coaches part-I would never to coach a travel team-- to many head aceas-- |
| teddy41 |
Posted - 06/01/2009 : 07:40:33
I think most people know these types are fundraiser's. I think a lot of teams will look at or go after kids who never show up at the tryouts or have rosters almost filled prior to ever holding them. I would be interested in how many parents see a line item budget for the team or just blindly write a check each season. |
| C. MORTON |
Posted - 05/30/2009 : 17:11:52
CHEESE...You know hhow some parents are lol...they will pay almsot anything to play where they want to play... |
| highcheese |
Posted - 05/30/2009 : 01:34:31
Guys - on the hundo to play at east cobb. The 100 fee is for the fall amd there is another 100 or 125 in the spring. Registration if you will to play at the park on an east cobb team. If you have a team allready sometimes this fee is lumped into the fees you pay the team or you pay it seperately. Either way ECB will get a hundred dollars from every kid who plays on an east cobb sanctioned team. If you are not on a team and want to do an open tryout on the dates above you pay the hundred to ECB, if your chosen for a team great, you have paid and registered to play at ECB. If you do not make it the money goes for the two days of trying out. If you never make a team that fall you have spent 100 to try. If you do make it through a private tryout then you are covered for the fall. Anyway you slice it ECB gats a 100 to play.
If anyone asked me to pay 100 to do a private tryout then they are nuts. You and the coaches involved should being doing some homework to see if a tryout is even warranted. |
| GW |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 23:14:26
Wow, I think this is the first time the topic of the $100 tryout/clinic fee has been discussed on this forum. LOL  |
| BREAMKING |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 15:54:40
I was wondering how many 8yr. old parents (well I guess they are 7 at the time of the tryout) actually pay a 100.00 tryout aka camp fee to try out for a baseball team. To me this just sounds crazy. Kinda like T-ball is for rec. parks. Just a money grab. |
| gabandit |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 13:41:24
Other than the park fee that is being discussed, there is another approach that has yet to be mentioned. In most travel ball situations, the parents hold the upper hand. There are no contracts that players sign with teams, and if they do sign "something" it is not worth the paper it is written on. Therefore many serious teams charge a "tryout fee" which is really more of a "binder". If your son is chosen for the team the fee is credited towards your team fees. If you do not make the team it is refunded. If you are chosen for the team but you choose to go elsewhere, then the fee is retained by the team.
This method is in response to parents "team hopping" and playing one team off against another... It doesn't fix the problem totally but does help somewhat. |
| C. MORTON |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 09:31:33
From the ECB web site
"Instructors will include former college players who have played within the East Cobb Baseball organization, college and high school coaches, and East Cobb Baseball coaches. Be a part of nationally known East Cobb Baseball, winners of 133 national championships.
Dates: Ages 8-13 August 8th & 9th, 2009 Registration deadline: Aug. 1st
Ages 14-18 August 15th & 16th Registration deadline: Aug. 8th
Cost: $100 pre-registration $125 late registration
It is very important that you pre-register in order for the player’s name to be placed on the coach’s evaluation sheet."
I think the 100 is for the Clinic not the team...and then teams charge different fees to play..I do know when we went to try out for a ECB fall team the fee we were going to pay included everything but the shoes....
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| goyard |
Posted - 05/29/2009 : 08:38:07
Truth be known and often overlooked is the fact that it takes a LOT of $$$ to run and operate a park like East Cobb and the Tryout Camp is just one of those things that if you enjoy playing there and using the facilities it simply makes writing the check easier. Many full time employees and MUCH upkeep it takes to give us such a nice park to play games and tourneys. One should not show up thinking they are going to get private instruction or lesson type camp for their $100 - it's just a cost of doing business - a baseball Tax let's call it  |
| Alter-Ego |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 22:58:28
If you really want to play for a team, in an organization, that charges $100 for it's clinic and tryout, you won't feel it is a big deal to pay it. Otherwise paying the money will not seem like a good option for you.
Other than East Cobb, who has a private facility to cover expenses in, I was not aware of other teams charging a $100 fee.
op-o,
I would not say the organization or coach would be in it for a profit but are in it to make a living (or partial living). I don't get mad when the guy cutting my yard is trying to make a living doing it. If I join a team with a paid coach, I should not be offended that he is trying to survive doing what he enjoys. I wish I had a job that was baseball related. |
| ronicard |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 22:43:45
East Cobb charges a fee, but if you make the team, I believe that $ is credited towards the player's fees for the season. One reason to charge a fee is because the better teams will traditionally get a lot of interest. Some of which is from players whose parents know they have little to no chance of making a team. The fee forces them to consider if trying out is really the best idea at least. |
| gasbag |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 17:55:28
AS I started before me and my son are new to travel baseball. I am hearing about travel teams getting ready for next year which amazes me this season aint even over. I keep hearing about people paying money to tryout? Why would people pay $100.00 to tryout for a team they are going to play for. Ok a field may cost $100.00 to use for a day but what am I paying for? if 50 people tryout that is 5k. where is that money going? arent most coaches volunteering. Run it as a camp or teaching type setup whatever its still a tryout to find the best players to make yhour team the best. Seems they should be paying us to have our my son tryout.
Reggie - Some parks private parks( ECB ) utilize this as a psuedo fund raiser. They have lots of maintenance costs associated with upkeep so it helps defray these costs. They also have some coaches to give watchful oversight but it's mostly about the $. In my experience, most teams / players have already been identified or matched so you may pick up a player who fills a niche for you. |
| balldad |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 17:35:00
Some coaches charge a fee so that only the serious will show up. That Shows them that you are serious and really want to play some serious ball. After the try out is over I have known some coach to give the money back. Other than that I don't know. I am sure there all not like that but there are some that are. |
| BaseballMomof2 |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 16:38:35
I may be wrong (and I'm sure someone will let me know if I am) but I believe East Cobb Baseball charges $100 or something near that to attend their tryout sessions. Not sure how I feel about that. I see that many people are willing to pay it because they have lots of teams full of players. Maybe it keeps their team parents from having to pay a lot for baseball? Don't know.
Anyway, there are plenty of baseball opportunities around metro Atlanta where you don't have to pay to try out. |
| Goin Deep |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 16:37:33
You must be getting bad info. You should never have to try out and pay....UNLESS it is a "camp" style tryout. |
| tater77bug |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 15:50:02
It could be a couple of things....they may be trying to keep the numbers of people trying out down..scare off the not really interested....however, I can't imagine any coach that would want to limit his # of options...you never know who will show up and charging to try out seems like someone that is under funded or misguided...JMO...I would look at other options before considering trying out for such a team... |
| op-o |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:21:00
Reggie,
The teams that usualy charge for a tryout typically have a paid coach with no child on the team. And yes, he or the organization he represents is in it for a profit. Other situations are run by a city park & rec and charge a nominal feee ($10.00) for a tryout. Otherwise paying to try-out is rare. |
| C. MORTON |
Posted - 05/28/2009 : 14:14:01
Depends on where you try out..ECB has a tryout fee..And I think that goes to the PARK..Not all teams have a fee..We didn't have a tryout fee just a fee if you made the team... |
