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| hshuler |
Posted - 01/26/2016 : 10:25:48
What do you expect from your travelball organization? |
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| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 02/03/2016 : 08:04:36
quote:
Originally posted by teddy41
I do not need to see a budget or where every dollar is spent just give me a fair price on what it will cost for my kid to play for you for a season. Its like taking a lesson i do not need to see how much of my money goes to the water, electric, the mound the tee just tell the cost and i can say yes or no. I am not worried how much is spent on baseballs, tournaments, insurance, jock straps etc just what is the cost? i can then say yes or no. My kids coach basically says "here is the cost to play for me and this team for this season" and the price is in line with most if not all programs. Anyone can make any budget look good or bad but does anyone really check uniform, tournament, insurance prices? My guess if you take a coaches hourly pay vs what you pay a instructor an hour a week it is way way less. I would say about 80 percent less. That is why instructors do not coach teams. They can make more throwing a bucket of balls to you than they can sitting on a bucket all weekend
I have to disagree very much. I want a budget, and I want to know where my money went. This cuts down on conjecture later. I can't tell you how many times I have heard a parent say "I don't know why our team costs so much, Johnny's team has fewer players and is playing in better tourneys and their team costs less! The coach must be pocketing the money."....and then the bad feelings start and poof the team implodes!
If it is broken down up front that your team had winter training and indoor facility access once a week with a paid instructor, and your team has 2 field times a week and Johhny's team only has one official field slot and they have to try and practice at a variety of other locations to get in a second day....etc....it makes sense why your team was more. But if it isn't broken down up front people talk and bad feelings follow. |
| teddy41 |
Posted - 02/02/2016 : 17:07:46
I do not need to see a budget or where every dollar is spent just give me a fair price on what it will cost for my kid to play for you for a season. Its like taking a lesson i do not need to see how much of my money goes to the water, electric, the mound the tee just tell the cost and i can say yes or no. I am not worried how much is spent on baseballs, tournaments, insurance, jock straps etc just what is the cost? i can then say yes or no. My kids coach basically says "here is the cost to play for me and this team for this season" and the price is in line with most if not all programs. Anyone can make any budget look good or bad but does anyone really check uniform, tournament, insurance prices? My guess if you take a coaches hourly pay vs what you pay a instructor an hour a week it is way way less. I would say about 80 percent less. That is why instructors do not coach teams. They can make more throwing a bucket of balls to you than they can sitting on a bucket all weekend |
| hshuler |
Posted - 01/28/2016 : 10:51:42
Lol @ brball - The question was posed to me by a trusted advisor last summer when it was time to decide on an organization so I was interested in hearing different perspectives.
My top three:
1. I wanted him to be around high character men/good leaders of young men.
2. Top level training/instruction.
3. An organization that has credibility with college coaches because my son's desire (right now) is to play ball in college. |
| brball |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 23:03:20
@shu - C'mon man or should I say Shu, Holtzie, best coach of all time, etc... Whatever Balker and Co. wants to call you? I expect my son to get a D1 and / or top draft pick offer from his, nothing less!!! No really, just good coaching with lots of reps (practice and / or games) against the best competition available and obviously at a decent budget! Not sure what answer your looking for, but that's mine for now. |
| ABC_Baseball |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 21:54:49
More than anything else, the best player(s) make the team and play. Let everybody show what they have and take the best. |
| SuperStar |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 21:06:17
I expect the head coach to mean what they say and say what they mean. Don't blow smoke, and have a passion for the game and the players. If you are not into it then don't coach our kids. Remember, a person is only as good as there hand shake and their word. |
| BamaDad |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 15:33:27
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
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Originally posted by turntwo
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball
Professional coaches with actual playing experience at least college and beyond who love teaching the age they are dealing with. Coaches who are positive, upbeat and can transfer their knowledge to development of players on an individual basis. Not one size fits all. Good tournament choices with appropriate competition. Challenge for the players to be their best and control.of the dugout. Most importantly coaches who make their own decisions about playing time based purely on their assessment of players' attitudes, hard work and ability to earn their spot with a deaf ear to the parent peanut gallery.
Yeah, that's a utopia. Ultimately someone signs their check... OR there's the over-zealous parent that will always throw some extra ($$) at the coach for lessons, lunches, 'gifts', etc.
I will say that there are coaches out there that give extra lessons and those that partake in those lessons still aren't treated any differently come game day...so it isn't ALWAYS a scam...but yeah sometimes it is.
I have been lucky in my recent choices of coaches. I agree, some coaches have charged extra for lessons and rewarded those parents with additional PT for their respective kids. I put more diligence in my last two team searches and the dedication of the coaches was different. These coaches were will go give the additional private lessons as 'No Charge'. There reasoning was that the lessons, while definitely benefitting the player, would also benefit the team. If the player go better, then his better play would directly help the team. That's what I look for now when interviewing prospective coaches. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 13:32:33
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Originally posted by turntwo
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Originally posted by Crazyforbball
Professional coaches with actual playing experience at least college and beyond who love teaching the age they are dealing with. Coaches who are positive, upbeat and can transfer their knowledge to development of players on an individual basis. Not one size fits all. Good tournament choices with appropriate competition. Challenge for the players to be their best and control.of the dugout. Most importantly coaches who make their own decisions about playing time based purely on their assessment of players' attitudes, hard work and ability to earn their spot with a deaf ear to the parent peanut gallery.
Yeah, that's a utopia. Ultimately someone signs their check... OR there's the over-zealous parent that will always throw some extra ($$) at the coach for lessons, lunches, 'gifts', etc.
I will say that there are coaches out there that give extra lessons and those that partake in those lessons still aren't treated any differently come game day...so it isn't ALWAYS a scam...but yeah sometimes it is. |
| BaseballMom6 |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 12:08:45
I expect an organization to honor its word. |
| turntwo |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 11:00:34
quote:
Originally posted by Crazyforbball
Professional coaches with actual playing experience at least college and beyond who love teaching the age they are dealing with. Coaches who are positive, upbeat and can transfer their knowledge to development of players on an individual basis. Not one size fits all. Good tournament choices with appropriate competition. Challenge for the players to be their best and control.of the dugout. Most importantly coaches who make their own decisions about playing time based purely on their assessment of players' attitudes, hard work and ability to earn their spot with a deaf ear to the parent peanut gallery.
Yeah, that's a utopia. Ultimately someone signs their check... OR there's the over-zealous parent that will always throw some extra ($$) at the coach for lessons, lunches, 'gifts', etc. |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 01/27/2016 : 09:27:13
Professional coaches with actual playing experience at least college and beyond who love teaching the age they are dealing with. Coaches who are positive, upbeat and can transfer their knowledge to development of players on an individual basis. Not one size fits all. Good tournament choices with appropriate competition. Challenge for the players to be their best and control.of the dugout. Most importantly coaches who make their own decisions about playing time based purely on their assessment of players' attitudes, hard work and ability to earn their spot with a deaf ear to the parent peanut gallery. |
| turntwo |
Posted - 01/26/2016 : 15:14:28
Shu-
You mention ORGANIZATION vs. a team... I'm thinking that was intentional, and so I immediately think of an Organization being that of East Cobb, 643, GA Jackets, HomePlate, etc-- not the specific team or age group, but the 'corporate' over-head. So, from an organization I except:
-CLEAR and CONCISE communication with anything the Organization has control over, for me son's team,
-A copy of the budget FOR MY TEAM if the Organization has control of the money,
-If I'm being charged a 'premium' just be to part of this Organization, I expect the Organization to provide adequate indoor facilities, field space, AND instructor(s) for OUR TEAM
-OR- I don't want the Organization trying to 'micro-manage' my son's team when they are not intimately involved in our teams operations, skill set, etc. Meaning if we are a team that is under the Organization's umbrella, yet the Organization doesn't know our players from Adam... They don't know if we are 'A' or 'Major'... They don't know if we want to play 7 or 12 tournaments... They don't know what 'tournament trail', and that we want to end at Ft. Myers vs. PCB... So I don't want them making ANY decisions for OUR TEAM.
It's VERY interesting you bring this question up, because we are now in a different organization than last year, and it's a night and day difference in how one Organization wants to be in COMPLETE control, while the other, just 'pimped it's name' (along with having access to great fields 2x's a week, and indoor occasionally). |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 01/26/2016 : 14:39:47
Well there is what I expect, and what my kid expects.
My expectations:
1. Knowledgeable coaches that can take that knowledge and pass it onto the players without demeaning or demoralizing insults.
2. That my son learns and progresses every year which should get him closer to the ball player he wants to be.
3. That the budget is laid out ahead of time, complete with what costs what, and we are told if anything is TBD later, such as end of the year trip.
4. That no tourney is more than 1 hour from our home park...seriously we do NOT need to travel more than an hour to find decent competition.
5. Practices should not start earlier than 6pm, and should end by 9pm during the school year.
His expectations:
1. Field time at least two days a week, and a place to practice if it rains.
2. The team has to be fun, not yelling at each other about mistakes.
3. To play better teams
4. Different Jersey for Fall vs. Spring (no idea why that's important to him but it is)
5. Doesn't want to stand around in practice, there has to be enough drills to keep everyone busy.
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| bfriendly |
Posted - 01/26/2016 : 14:33:56
quote:
Originally posted by hshuler
What do you expect from your travelball organization?
Honesty and kept promises? Its what I expect from any and all I deal with........ we can do anything from there.
I expect Quality coaching WITH some instruction for development. Mental work as well as physical.
The higher the level you get to the more the mental side of the game comes into play.........I think Yogi has a quote about it
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| BamaDad |
Posted - 01/26/2016 : 12:24:53
Great question. Since it's a personal opinion, there is no right or wrong answer. I look for the following:
1. Professional instruction included in regular team training.
2. Team coaches who know the game and can transfer that knowledge to the players in a language they understand.
3. Camaraderie among the teammates. Even though they are competing against each other for playing time, they still love to be around each other and have fun together.
4. Families that understand the aspects of travelball especially the time requirements. There are lot of parental "do's and don'ts" that need to be understood. They also must respect each other and put the kids and the team first.
5. Most importantly, good competition. You only get to be the best by playing with and against the best.
Life lessons are gained from sports. As they say, "ball is life". I look for the opportunity for my son to be pushed so that he can grow in the sport and as a young man. |
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