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| jaguars18 |
Posted - 09/08/2016 : 09:36:03
Triple Crown requires you to pay a surcharge or stay in their hotel if it takes more than an hour to get to your games? Is this sort of nuts or what? 60 miles is not that far to get to a game and what if half of your team is an hour away?
Just seems like another way to make money |
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| sebaseball |
Posted - 09/14/2016 : 10:03:39
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Originally posted by teddy41
Did someone say coaches should ask parents if they want to travel LOL it is travel ball. Coaches set schedule, parents work around it unless its the daddy ball teams which is run by the mom's in the family LOL.
I think the intent was that the coach & parents have a predetermined understanding of what the travel arrangement will look like. For our team, everyone was on board and agreed that playing mostly Saturday only events within an hour & half of our home city was basically how the schedule would be constructed. We had a few overnight trips each spring up to the ATL for bigger tourneys, but those were not the norm. So while we played "travel ball", we didn't "travel" like some teams do.
The bottom line is that organizations who have a stay to play rule are making money off of it. They wouldn't go through the hassle & headache of doing it if there was no financial gain. They can spin it all they want that it's to "help" the teams/families, but they're doing it to make more money. I'm sure it's helpful to some, but also not helpful to others. From what the TC folks have indicated about their stay to play policy, it sounds like they are doing a better job of bringing value to teams/families than PG does. PG could do a much better job in offering more options and those that are in closer proximity. |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 09/13/2016 : 09:12:44
Where stay to play would irk me is if I had to PAY to stay at a hotel when I had points at a hotel that I could stay at for FREE but was not a "partner" hotel. |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 09/13/2016 : 08:37:47
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
Okay, quick poll for everyone on here. If your team was schedule to play in a tourney 100 miles away, would you be getting a hotel?
I think I would be less concerned with getting a hotel that was 100 miles away and more concerned with a coach that booked that tourney without parental input.
Let's keep in mind what the REAL issue here would be. It's not 60 minutes, it's 100 miles.
No constant here. It depends. Assuming that most youth level tourneys have a & Saturday pool game, it would depend on what time the Saturday game is scheduled. Typically you'll play a Friday game, then a game later Saturday. Or, you'll play two Saturday with the first game being early. If I had the early game, then I'd probably stay Friday night.
Then, based on what time the Sunday game would be, same decision point. If you're looking at a 10:00 start, so arrive by 8:30/9:00, I wouldn't stay. Arrival time any earlier, likely to stay.
Also depends on if the tourney takes me driving through Atlanta. Since I'm a northsider, anything on the McDonough/ Peachtree City side would likely have me staying overnight since I'd have to navigate the weekend construction delays.
Finally, the decision point that trumps all others . . . Cost of the room. Ability to use Marriott or Hilton points and $120 per night tended to be the over/under for me.
Like I said, no constant, it always depended. Too many variables. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 09/13/2016 : 08:29:37
Maybe we should start a different poll....how many people are baseball poor? |
| teddy41 |
Posted - 09/12/2016 : 23:23:33
Did someone say coaches should ask parents if they want to travel LOL it is travel ball. Coaches set schedule, parents work around it unless its the daddy ball teams which is run by the mom's in the family LOL. |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 09/12/2016 : 22:52:59
Now THAT ^^^^^ is funny. We can all relate to that. And multiply times whatever number of kids you have and all their activities too. We should start sports hostels. |
| Renegade44 |
Posted - 09/12/2016 : 13:37:18
Under 2 hours......drive
Over 2 hours......sleep in car
Over 2 days stay.......camp under bridge.
The deciding factor isn't how far I can drive or how early, its how much money is in the bank account that given weekend, after paying the academy fees, and trying to find a crack in the fence to squeeze thru cause I don't have $10 for the gate fee left over. |
| CaCO3Girl |
Posted - 09/12/2016 : 08:10:18
Okay, quick poll for everyone on here. If your team was schedule to play in a tourney 100 miles away, would you be getting a hotel?
I think I would be less concerned with getting a hotel that was 100 miles away and more concerned with a coach that booked that tourney without parental input.
Let's keep in mind what the REAL issue here would be. It's not 60 minutes, it's 100 miles. |
| jmac83 |
Posted - 09/11/2016 : 11:07:36
My experience with this issue at various TC tournaments was, nobody is actively policing it. The tournament director and coach are not spending man-hours to check up on where (and if) you stay, even if they communicate the policy as a mandate. If the coach finds out you are driving back and forth from home or lined up less expensive accommodations, he's not going to draw a line in the sand. Do whatever works best for your family and don't spend any more mental energy on the issue, always delivered for me. |
| Crazyforbball |
Posted - 09/10/2016 : 18:15:43
We've never had an issue....I have never known TC to split hairs, this really comes into play more for the team from say, Macon, playing in a tourney in Ringgold, not that this is a realistic scenario, but just making up an example. I don't think they are penalizing the team that is 101 miles away. I don't think they are requiring anyone to get a room that can realistically make the drive. And honestly, how many of us have played in a tournament where the opposition actually forfeited due to the entire team being stuck in traffic because they didn't want to get rooms? If an individual player doesn't make it due to poor planning, well I guess that player just has to sit that game out. Who carries only 9? |
| Renegade44 |
Posted - 09/10/2016 : 13:00:39
Travel Ball
I'm tired
I'm poor
Breaking Point
Soon
It is
Sad
Can't take or do no more
Baseball: The sport of Elite Premier bank accounts. Kinda like the new craze in team names. |
| Ryno23 |
Posted - 09/10/2016 : 10:35:01
It's been my experience with Tony V and the crew at Triple Crown, that if you call them and explain your situation, that they are more than willing to discuss and work things out for you and your team. His commitment to making the TC to your teams and parents isn't just lip service. Unlike a lot of other experiences we have had over the last 10 years, Tony V gets it and follows through with his commitment to do the best job possible. While we have had some schedules that we haven't been thrilled with, such as start times and field locations, we accepted those possibilities when we signed up. And as far as the 100 mile traveling radius, I think common sense applies on this one. 100 Mile radius from Atlanta basically covers you the complete north GA area all the way down to the Macon area. I highly doubt that they are going to be holding a hard stance on the exact mileage. If you're traveling further than that, I am sure you're going to want get a hotel room.
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| jaguars18 |
Posted - 09/09/2016 : 20:21:11
I work an hour away from my house and do not need a hotel to get to work on time or home in time to get my kid to his practice.
We had the same thing last year when we went to an event and i had relatives out of town and was going to let a few people stay at their house but our coach said we had to stay at the hotel the tournament required or he had to take $$ out of budget.
Thanks for everyone's concern with everyone's ability to get places on time. Good stuff to read
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| jbarley |
Posted - 09/09/2016 : 20:16:20
I would think adults can thing for themselves most deal with traffic daily so to try to act like they are not old enough to decide on their own if they want to drive or stay is sort of insulting to people who earn a good living and have some sense. |
| jbarley |
Posted - 09/09/2016 : 16:11:03
Quote: This Stay to Play policy will only make our events better and it has done to bring the value back to the customer in our events
quote We know that these teams will not be driving back and forth
How do you know?? Is there not an option?
So it makes it a better value to charge $250 more to play? I can say if a coach told me i HAD to stay in a Hotel and I had to use they one they determine i would not do it. I went through this same thing last year and many people have relatives who live near the fields.
As a coach i would also never MANDATE parents have to stay or not stay its up to them.
Another issue is Trip Crown/WWBA?Ussa etc will list a team at "surrounding area" and then you never know till its too late where your going so who can tell exactly if its 85 or 105 miles? |
| jaguars18 |
Posted - 09/09/2016 : 16:04:38
How do you determine how far each kid on the team lives?
Paying an extra $250 is almost absurd ? Why does TC care where or IF teams play? Another way to make money is the only thing its about.
I have often drove 100 miles for a event and then driven home. I am not paying $100 plus a night for a room if i can drive home and sleep in my own bed. |
| TripleCrownAdministrator |
Posted - 09/09/2016 : 15:04:57
To all of the players, coaches, and fans:
This policy only applies for out of town teams that are traveling over 100 miles to play in the event. We know that these teams will not be driving back and forth to the event and we are now requiring them to stay at one of our partner hotels. We have an in-house lodging director in Julius Comia who has spent countless hours to assure the best possible rates and make sure that these hotels provide a hot breakfast for all of the teams benefit! With this partnership, we will require these out of town teams to stay in our hotels at our events to justify these hotels going out of their way to give you the best possible product. This will not directly effect the teams that commute to our tournaments throughout the season. We also have secured both Hilton and Marriott choices so that the customer can also use their points if they so choose. We also tried to strategically work with the hotels that would be closest to the fields and make sure the teams will be satisfied even more with our product. This Stay to Play policy will only make our events better and it has done to bring the value back to the customer in our events. We had used Group Housing (3rd party) in the past and it was a total nightmare for everyone. We hope that you now understand and we have made it a much more user friendly and easier approach when booking your accomodations to play in our events.
Thank you,
Tony VonDolteren
Triple Crown Sports |
| BaseballMom6 |
Posted - 09/08/2016 : 22:08:47
some of their venues are nearly an hour apart. So an hour from which field??? |
| in_the_know |
Posted - 09/08/2016 : 19:04:28
An hour to get to a game could be within 20 miles on Friday evening in Atlanta . . . |
| hshuler |
Posted - 09/08/2016 : 10:30:07
I am pretty sure that's for out of town teams only. Tony is one of the TD's who gets it. |
