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letsplay3 Posted - 10/30/2018 : 13:16:29
Does anyone have any insight as to whether PG is pulling out of Lakepointe? It seems this has been a rumor the last few years but hasn't happened. It looks like PG moved the HS Showdown that has been played at Lakepointe to the Hoover Met (Birmingham,AL). Not sure if this is a tactic for negotiation with the group that now controls Lakepointe or sign that they are moving out. If they move out, does TC come in? There has been speculation that there will be shake ups at TC as well. Have heard there will be "Big Announcements" in November. Any insights?
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CaCO3Girl Posted - 12/13/2018 : 07:03:59
quote:
Originally posted by Teeillz


They'll be here, BUT will all of the scouts and the showcases? That's the main reason to spend all that $ for PG events IMO. Most scouts I've heard/spoken with utilize PG, specifically Lakepoint, because it's a centralized location for them to see everyone they are interested in- one stop shop. I wonder how PG's stock amongst scouts here in GA will be affected. But maybe this means more resources will go into ECB, because their facility has decreased IMO as folks were frequenting Lakepoint more. It'll be interesting. My oldest is out of the youth sports realm, in his senior year, but I have a 13 years old behind him...[

quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by Teeillz

Welp, guess us GA folks will be hightailing it to PG events in Florida..cuz uhhh Iowa... it’s a no for me dawg



https://www.perfectgame.org/Schedule/Default.aspx?Type=Tournaments

Plenty still left in GA, and they are calling the GA tourneys their National Headquarters.





PG use to be at ECB. This is just going back to how it use to be.
Teeillz Posted - 12/12/2018 : 13:33:07

They'll be here, BUT will all of the scouts and the showcases? That's the main reason to spend all that $ for PG events IMO. Most scouts I've heard/spoken with utilize PG, specifically Lakepoint, because it's a centralized location for them to see everyone they are interested in- one stop shop. I wonder how PG's stock amongst scouts here in GA will be affected. But maybe this means more resources will go into ECB, because their facility has decreased IMO as folks were frequenting Lakepoint more. It'll be interesting. My oldest is out of the youth sports realm, in his senior year, but I have a 13 years old behind him...[

quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by Teeillz

Welp, guess us GA folks will be hightailing it to PG events in Florida..cuz uhhh Iowa... it’s a no for me dawg



https://www.perfectgame.org/Schedule/Default.aspx?Type=Tournaments

Plenty still left in GA, and they are calling the GA tourneys their National Headquarters.

CaCO3Girl Posted - 12/10/2018 : 07:53:25
quote:
Originally posted by Teeillz

Welp, guess us GA folks will be hightailing it to PG events in Florida..cuz uhhh Iowa... it’s a no for me dawg



https://www.perfectgame.org/Schedule/Default.aspx?Type=Tournaments

Plenty still left in GA, and they are calling the GA tourneys their National Headquarters.
Shale6924 Posted - 12/07/2018 : 21:30:32
quote:
Originally posted by Teeillz

Welp, guess us GA folks will be hightailing it to PG events in Florida..cuz uhhh Iowa... it’s a no for me dawg



PG will still be hosting events in Georgia, just not at Lakepoint. Looks like they will be using area high schools, ballparks and East Cobb.
Teeillz Posted - 12/07/2018 : 13:40:19
Welp, guess us GA folks will be hightailing it to PG events in Florida..cuz uhhh Iowa... it’s a no for me dawg
bama21 Posted - 12/06/2018 : 08:33:56
Like any business model, the market drives the prices. The Georgia market is huge for travel baseball and I don't think anyone would say that that will be changing in the near future, if anything, it will only be getting bigger.
Crazyforbball Posted - 12/06/2018 : 01:12:30
Not sure what PG means when they say they want to appeal to underserved communities, and those who "lack resources." Does this mean they are going to host tournaments in areas that don't have much in the way of facilities? Or that we will be footing the bill for the less advantaged with lesser facilities but the same prices we've been paying at LP? I hope it means prices will come down so it's more affordable for everyone. Not thrilled about having to travel to Iowa either to play in what will no doubt be where their big events will be held in the years to come.
RUSemiPro Posted - 12/05/2018 : 18:04:01
All the play downs will like that....

quote:
Originally posted by Shale6924

Best I can tell, looks like prices are comparable. One big difference I noticed (if I am reading it correctly) is it appears that PBR tourneys will be by grad year instead of age. PG tourneys are either / or except in the fall.

Hurricane22 Posted - 12/05/2018 : 16:07:28
Its getting ridiculous. Just gonna drive the cost of kids playing ball up. Never thought of baseball as a country club sport.
SuperStar Posted - 12/05/2018 : 12:07:43
quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by brball

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402



NICE!!! Now the question is....what will PBR charge for games? PBR currently charges around $200 for a showcase, PG charges $700.

Will PBR pick up where PG left off, or are we about to see a week long tourney for only $1k?



That's a good question.

Another good question is this..., Is PG still going to charge those high rates playing tournaments on the dirt fields this year with Triple Crown?
Shale6924 Posted - 12/05/2018 : 11:47:11
Best I can tell, looks like prices are comparable. One big difference I noticed (if I am reading it correctly) is it appears that PBR tourneys will be by grad year instead of age. PG tourneys are either / or except in the fall.
RUSemiPro Posted - 12/05/2018 : 11:30:26
A couple 13U tournaments, but seem more geared to 14U and above and nothing until May, seems very HS oriented.

Southeast Super Select 3gg 895
Georgia State Games 4gg 1195

Seems a little steep to me, and will they still charge for parking and gate fees?

My thought, this is a High School Play and youth tournaments at lakepoint are dead for a while

quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by brball

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402



NICE!!! Now the question is....what will PBR charge for games? PBR currently charges around $200 for a showcase, PG charges $700.

Will PBR pick up where PG left off, or are we about to see a week long tourney for only $1k?

ofs13 Posted - 12/05/2018 : 11:05:33
quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by brball

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402



NICE!!! Now the question is....what will PBR charge for games? PBR currently charges around $200 for a showcase, PG charges $700.

Will PBR pick up where PG left off, or are we about to see a week long tourney for only $1k?


Based on the tournaments currently listed on the PBR website, tournaments will run from $900 for 3 games guaranteed to $1200-$1400 for 4 games guaranteed.



https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/event/NATIONAL/southeast-super-select-5-24-5-27-19#tab_eventinfo

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/event/NATIONAL/georgia-state-games-5-31-6-2-19#tab_eventinfo

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/event/NATIONAL/pbr-showdown-at-lakepoint-6-7-6-9-19#tab_eventinfo

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/event/NATIONAL/14u-southeast-championshp-6-13-6-16-19#tab_eventinfo

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/event/NATIONAL/lakepoint-classic-6-16-6-16-19#tab_eventinfo

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/event/NATIONAL/national-program-invitational-6-20-6-23-19#tab_eventinfo

turntwo Posted - 12/05/2018 : 10:14:24
quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by brball

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402



NICE!!! Now the question is....what will PBR charge for games? PBR currently charges around $200 for a showcase, PG charges $700.

Will PBR pick up where PG left off, or are we about to see a week long tourney for only $1k?



PBR rates are MORE than PG....$895 for a regular 3-day tourney, $1,195 for a 4-day tourney (14U tourneys)... I’d say “$200 showcases” are a thing of the past...
hshuler Posted - 12/05/2018 : 10:01:18
quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

quote:
Originally posted by brball

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402



NICE!!! Now the question is....what will PBR charge for games? PBR currently charges around $200 for a showcase, PG charges $700.

Will PBR pick up where PG left off, or are we about to see a week long tourney for only $1k?



According to the site, three day tournament format.
CaCO3Girl Posted - 12/05/2018 : 07:11:14
quote:
Originally posted by brball

https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402



NICE!!! Now the question is....what will PBR charge for games? PBR currently charges around $200 for a showcase, PG charges $700.

Will PBR pick up where PG left off, or are we about to see a week long tourney for only $1k?
brball Posted - 12/04/2018 : 21:34:34
https://www.prepbaseballreport.com/news/PBR/Prep-Baseball-Report-and-Rimrock-Announce-Long-Term-Partnership-At-LakePoint-6153789402
NorcrossBBall Posted - 12/02/2018 : 10:49:18
Wonder if Lakepoint has enough money left in bank to take the PG logos off the turf ? LMAO. Don't get me wrong, cool place but over years I've gotten real tired of being nickeled and dimed to to death out there....if I want that I'll go to Braves game. As long as PG keeps DiamondKast and records the metrics I don't care where they hold the games but I'm glad to see this get back to ECB...hopefully the money will allow for some much needed upgrades.
hshuler Posted - 11/15/2018 : 11:49:10
I think it’s official.

https://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=15931
Renegade44 Posted - 11/14/2018 : 17:22:14
All as planned from the very beginning. Bankruptcy was designed from the get go. And the somebody you refer to also was designed at the same time.

<<Somebody is going to get a state of the art facility at pennies on the dollar after the bankruptcy and re-negotiations are done.>>
letsplay3 Posted - 11/14/2018 : 12:58:31
The plot thickens. Tony V's TC site is no longer available (http://www.tcsoutheastbaseball.com/). Have heard that he will be state director for PG Georgia. I guess the announcements should be coming shortly.
RUSemiPro Posted - 11/13/2018 : 21:40:05
Somebody is going to get a state of the art facility at pennies on the dollar after the bankruptcy and re-negotiations are done.

Next year or so will be interesting on how it all goes down. Somebody is going to make a ton of money at the expense of bond holders.

quote:
Originally posted by letsplay3

Thanks for the thoughts. It is interesting that from all accounts PG had a PG friendly lease with Lakepoint. In that time they have grown their brand and the size of WWBA tournaments while hosting in Metro Atlanta. One could make the argument that the facility had a role in the growth. I have also heard that Lakepoint has broken ground on the additional 8 fields. I have to believe that it is negotiating tactics by both sides. To walk away from a great facility that will potentially have 16 fields that reduce weather risk dramatically seems short sighted. Especially if they relocate the tournaments to Ft Myers where you can count on weather delays every day.

battrup22 Posted - 11/13/2018 : 12:13:05
I don't think anyone truly knows what's going on with Lakepoint right now outside of PG and LP employees. It's all hear-say until an announcement's been made from either side.
letsplay3 Posted - 11/12/2018 : 11:28:58
Thanks for the thoughts. It is interesting that from all accounts PG had a PG friendly lease with Lakepoint. In that time they have grown their brand and the size of WWBA tournaments while hosting in Metro Atlanta. One could make the argument that the facility had a role in the growth. I have also heard that Lakepoint has broken ground on the additional 8 fields. I have to believe that it is negotiating tactics by both sides. To walk away from a great facility that will potentially have 16 fields that reduce weather risk dramatically seems short sighted. Especially if they relocate the tournaments to Ft Myers where you can count on weather delays every day.
stealyourbase Posted - 11/12/2018 : 06:21:05
What we were told today is that PG is out of LP. Only events played at LP will be 15-17 WWBA events. All PG events will be played at HS facilities.

TC is no more as well. Guy who ran TC is now working for PG. Since PG has secured most local HS fields whoever tries to run TC will have a difficult time securing fields for their events.


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