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alrebosn
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 Posted - 02/23/2020 : 05:51:20
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| So in a tournament yesterday (2/22/20) with 4 teams playing in the 12U bracket. One team's pitcher threw 37 pitches in the 1st game and then 95 pitches in the 2nd game for a total of 120 pitches on the day. I am not going to pretend I know what pitch count is acceptable and what is not, but it seems to me that on a cool day in February, 122 pitches might be excessive and not in the interest of the player. Do we need to demand tournaments implement pitch counts to protect pitchers from over use? |
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gabbdad24
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Posted - 02/23/2020 : 11:10:49
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| Perfect Game uses Pitch Smart now so that wouldn’t be allowed there. He wouldn't have been eligible to pitch game 2 after 37 in game 1. But most orgs use innings because it’s too tough to police pitch counts when they don’t have an official scorer at each field. |
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Curveball13
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Posted - 02/24/2020 : 18:54:42
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| If we don’t look out for our kids who will? I’m guessing the kid can deal on the the mound and the coach obviously has concerns about his pitching depth and wants to win. As parents we need to know what is acceptable/safe and set boundaries with the coaches beforehand. If we’re being honest those of us who have coached get competitive in the heat of battle, we as parents need to be the voice of reason. Our boys won’t remember winning 1 tournament out of hundreds but they will never forget an arm injury that causes them to sit out for weeks if not months while their teammates play the game they love so much. |
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Gatravelbaseball
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Posted - 02/25/2020 : 10:14:38
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Pitching 37 in one game and then 95 in another game that same day is ridiculous.
But by far the worst I've ever seen (and hopefully about the worst there's ever been in the history of the game) was a 12U team from Ga. who won at Cooperstown last year that had a kid throw 113 pitches in a morning game, and then another 117 in the championship game.
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PVPanthers
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Posted - 02/27/2020 : 10:37:05
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| Perfect Game uses Pitch Smart, unless otherwise noted... which is typically the case for 12U and younger. Those age groups are using the old Triple Crown 6 inning total format. |
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PVPanthers
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Posted - 02/27/2020 : 10:44:35
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We managed to win Cooperstown last year also, and we were able to keep all our pitchers under 150 pitches for the entire week over a total of 11 games.
Beyond limiting pitches on young pitchers arms, Pitch Smart restrictions also force coaches to think more about pitching strategies and forces coaches to rely on more pitchers rather than relying on the same one or two stud pitchers on the team. If you work with Pitch Smart you can work on kids being efficient in throwing more strikes, pitching to contact and hopefully the team is making plays. |
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Gatravelbaseball
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Posted - 02/27/2020 : 17:08:15
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Originally posted by Gatravelbaseball
Pitching 37 in one game and then 95 in another game that same day is ridiculous.
But by far the worst I've ever seen (and hopefully about the worst there's ever been in the history of the game) was a 12U team from Ga. who won at Cooperstown last year that had a kid throw 113 pitches in a morning game, and then another 117 in the championship game.
I didn't make it clear that the championship game was the same day, so that was 230 pitches in ONE DAY.
The same kid also threw 58 pitches on the first day of the tourney, so that's a grand total of 288 pitches in 5 DAYS.
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PVPanthers
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Posted - 03/03/2020 : 11:20:06
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I didn't make it clear that the championship game was the same day, so that was 230 pitches in ONE DAY.
The same kid also threw 58 pitches on the first day of the tourney, so that's a grand total of 288 pitches in 5 DAYS.
It was clear. Anyone that knows that age group and that team heard about it as well. In fact, I had a travel ball director from GA call me and encourage me not to do the same thing. |
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