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scrappers

23 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  09:05:49  Show Profile
Anyone heard of the interest of CP AAA teams playing in ATL Super NIT, seems like the KP is loading up. We are just trying to decide if we should find something else that weekend or try the KP, even though we are just beginning that process.

wareagle

324 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  09:52:43  Show Profile
The trend seems to be more toward KP at 8U. It looks as if there are more teams registered that way at least. I personally would like to see a mix of both. Most teams are just starting as well so you should not be far behind.
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scrappers

23 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  11:44:45  Show Profile
We are planning on playing a couple 8u KP this Spring, but wanted to continue working on the fundamentals and let them enjoy the fast pace of the game at least one more year. It appears in GA many teams even do KP at 7u, is that true? Thanks
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Gus Ball Still Wins

77 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2012 :  13:51:06  Show Profile
Several of the teams signed up for the 8U KP are registered with USSSA as CP AAA teams. Outside of about 5 or 6 teams, from a review of the rosters, it looks like the rest are just beginning as KP. If so, they are in the same boat as you.
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TODDS

153 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2012 :  08:56:49  Show Profile
We had several parents concerned about starting the kids at this age at KP. As a result the team disbanded. I am in agreement at some levels at starting KP at 8, but see both sides of the arguement. I feel that it is too early to start KP tourny's in the beginning of the season but can see ending the season in KP if the kids are ready for it. Seen too many arm injuries in later years as I have an 11U that plays travel as well.

The games at KP have to be incredibly slow. I like the fast pace of the game at CP and I think there are so many fundamentals that you need to work on before making the jump to KP. The downfall I see with CP is that there are so many bad habits that learned at the plate with so much emphasis on hitting and little on defense. You have to re-teach the kids the proper mechanics of the swing when they do make the jump to KP.

Feel bad for the kids like mine that wanted to play travel ball and there are simply no other options for us in our area (Douglasville). Dread going back to rec ball as does my son!!!

ToddS
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angels1

73 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2012 :  22:38:37  Show Profile
TODDS, I'm not sure how far in Douglasville you are but the Atlanta Angels 8U KP travel team utilizes their batting cage facility located on Fulton Industrial Blvd. I'm not sure where we are going to practice yet but last year we practiced in East Point but we are looking into other options closer to you. If you're interested in taking a closer look at our organization and facility, our next practice is this Thursday at 6pm or Sunday at 1pm. There are potentially two slots available on this team or our affiliate team the Atlanta Thunder.

Kerry 678-612-3158
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angels1

73 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2012 :  23:38:48  Show Profile
24 Teams in the Atl SNIT is unbelievable! I'm excited about this group, a lot more teams and a lot more teams going with KP early. This is going to be great. Now are there any predictions for a top 5 coming out of the SNIT? Although I'm new to this group of kids, I had the pleasure of competing against several teams this past Fall. I'd have to go with the following in the top 5 excluding the Atl Angels (not in any particular order):
1. 6-4-3 DP Cougars
2. Cherokee Reds
3. Gamers Elite
4. Ga Jackhammers
5. Ga Yard Dogs
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Gus Ball Still Wins

77 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2012 :  14:18:39  Show Profile
Should be good. For those of you with experience in these types of tournaments, how are they usually set up? 6 brackets of 4 teams? Win your bracket to advance?

What about pitching strategy? Use your best arms early to make it to Sunday?

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angels1

73 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  14:02:34  Show Profile
With 24 teams you'll probably have to come in the top three in your pool in order to play into single elimination. Pitching strategies are all over the board it depends on if you think you have a shot at winning it all or you just want to go as far as you can and how many arms you have. I've seen teams win and lose close games with their best with their best pitcher not on the mound. I assume they felt they were their to win it all and the only shot they had was to save their best pitcher for the championship game. Gus you'll have to figure this one out based on your arms.
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Gus Ball Still Wins

77 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2012 :  14:42:26  Show Profile
I know a couple (at least 1) of the teams signed up for CP are actually playing KP. They were temporarily moved to stimulate sign ups in the CP.

As far as the pitching strategy, that is where the teams with KP experience have an advantage. We are just not sure what we have since we are just beginning. We should find out pretty quick, though...
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Travel for Life

49 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2012 :  14:38:01  Show Profile
Angels1, I agree with you that 24 teams is Huge and right now that's only all GA teams, so the future is bright! I would add to your predictions with my opinion on the teams that I saw from this past Fall and first of the new year so far. My opinion is based on the total of good arms and bats to compete in a 5-7 game tournament, 8u rules of course.

(not in any particular order):

6-4-3 DP Cougars
Acworth Warriors
Atl Angels
ECB Stallions
Jackhammers
Mill Creek Elite
Cherokee Reds
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Travel for Life

49 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2012 :  14:47:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Gus Ball Still Wins

I know a couple (at least 1) of the teams signed up for CP are actually playing KP. They were temporarily moved to stimulate sign ups in the CP.

As far as the pitching strategy, that is where the teams with KP experience have an advantage. We are just not sure what we have since we are just beginning. We should find out pretty quick, though...



Gus,

are you referring to Fusion Baseball?
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Gus Ball Still Wins

77 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2012 :  17:22:53  Show Profile
LG Mayhem and Fusion Baseball.
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Linedrive11

91 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2012 :  21:15:45  Show Profile
I have not seen many 8U teams. However, I do know that the Elite Gamers have a solid and deep pitching staff, so in a large tournament they will be a team to look out for.
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Originally posted by angels1

24 Teams in the Atl SNIT is unbelievable! I'm excited about this group, a lot more teams and a lot more teams going with KP early. This is going to be great. Now are there any predictions for a top 5 coming out of the SNIT? Although I'm new to this group of kids, I had the pleasure of competing against several teams this past Fall. I'd have to go with the following in the top 5 excluding the Atl Angels (not in any particular order):
1. 6-4-3 DP Cougars
2. Cherokee Reds
3. Gamers Elite
4. Ga Jackhammers
5. Ga Yard Dogs

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Fundamental_Coach

27 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2012 :  18:58:29  Show Profile
I answered my own question....Here is the link for the list of teams in the NIT....STACKED it is

http://www.usssa.com/sports/TournamentSeedingReport.asp?TournID=794525

Edited by - Fundamental_Coach on 03/06/2012 22:18:00
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UncleCharlie

31 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2012 :  17:16:21  Show Profile
I'm a little surprised that they released the pools and schedules before the completion of this past weekend tournaments. All the points earned sure would have shaken things up.
It appears there are couple of pools (C&E) that will require teams to use their top pitchers just to make it to the Top Flight.
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Travel for Life

49 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2012 :  17:40:37  Show Profile
IT's SUPER NIT WEEK, HERE WE GO!!!!...

I agree that it was weird that the brackets were out before today, yes pool C & E look to be the toughest and there are some soft pools but hey points is the game, right? Not a points system fan but for some reason we keep playing them. Since the pools are out and the brackets are laid out it would be neat to start Super NIT bracket challenge. What's everyone prediction?
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T13

257 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  09:30:53  Show Profile
Way to early in the season to know who is really good consistently.....Don't think it matters about upper or lower bracket...both will be competitive...some teams still finding out who can pitch...
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jamie77

53 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  10:18:36  Show Profile
Pool C & E are definitely the toughest pools. Here is my opinion on the Super NIT. I think you will have a few teams end up in the top flight bracket due to field size. A 140' pop up should not be a home run at eight year's old. Playing on such small fields kind of defeats the purpose of building a team on defense and pitching. Just my opinion.
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T13

257 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  11:47:34  Show Profile
jaime is 100% correct.....small fields at all ages are detrimental to player development...
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scrappers

23 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  14:49:18  Show Profile
What are the field sizes the 8u is played on? We are playing in CP division, but curious about the short field size comments that I have just seen.
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T13

257 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  15:21:53  Show Profile
Not sure about Alexander Park....but I prefer about 175....ball in the gap should be a double....Hidden Valley is short...
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jamie77

53 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  15:34:38  Show Profile
HV - Both fields are 150'
RC - Both fields are 140'
With fields this size it is hard to even leg out a double that hits the fence in the gap. No need for cut off men because most kids can throw home on the fly. Makes no sense. If you like the long ball should be an exciting weekend.
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deshelb

11 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  15:40:09  Show Profile
If the fields are the same as last year (Richard Craig Park) the deminsions had to be about 140'- 150'. We won the 8U CP last year and hit 38 homeruns for the weekend. Honestly, all though it helped us, it was nuts. There were so many good line drive gap shots hit that resulted in singles, which takes away so much from the game. Also, outfielders can play so close that a normal hit can result into a kid getting thrown out at any base. If you have some kids that can hit it, bring a lot of baseballs.
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scrappers

23 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2012 :  16:31:00  Show Profile
We are at Alexander Park in McDonough, anyone know those field dimensions?

Edited by - scrappers on 03/13/2012 20:41:09
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Travel for Life

49 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2012 :  08:25:25  Show Profile
A tournament this size and meaning should be played on 180-200' fields! I have to agree with the posters above that its not teaching these kids baseball. The outfields are not learning how to play the position, base runners are not learning how to run for a double and the hitters are taught to just put a bat on the ball and it has a 50% chance to be over the fence for homer that would be nothing but a pop up on a proper size field for this age group. The kids are getting bigger and stronger every year so playing on these short fields are a disadvantage and can hurt a players delevopment, JMO...
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