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billbclk
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 Posted - 01/20/2015 : 21:08:30
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| bballman we echo your sentiment about wanting to watch more baseball. Because we can readily go to Connecticut to watch our son play we have adopted GGC baseball to get our fix (about 4 miles from our house). |
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ItsGodGiven
70 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2015 : 21:33:56
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| CaCo...what the heck are you talking about??? Make it mandatory for parents to show up to HS tryouts so the coach can see which DAD "spooks" his son into making errors...??? WHAT??? Man, your son must play with the most dysfunctional team of all time. That's some funny stuff....are you serious? |
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CaCO3Girl
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Posted - 01/21/2015 : 09:09:11
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ItsGodGiven....okay confession time, my kid actually isn't in High School yet, he's in 7th grade. BUT, I have seen high school and higher travel ball games where a normally stable kid all of a sudden has errors galore when one parent or the other is there.
I have seen it from both a mom and a dad, there kid is in the zone, they yell one thing and poof the kid can't catch the ball or throw it to save his life. I was at one game where the dad handed the mom the keys and said "Just go home, you are bringing everyone down."...so yeah I am serious. I can't see this "spooking" going away in the next 2 years. |
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ItsGodGiven
70 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 11:43:52
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| So let me get this straight, you want the High School coach to study his players reaction to the presence of a specific parent and then subsequently ban the "spooky" parents from all baseball functions? Girl you crazy.... |
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CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 12:03:52
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Originally posted by ItsGodGiven
So let me get this straight, you want the High School coach to study his players reaction to the presence of a specific parent and then subsequently ban the "spooky" parents from all baseball functions? Girl you crazy....
LOL! No, I don't want the high school coach to study the parents, I would hope they have better things to do. But I do imagine that the HC would be disappointed that he picked Kid X over Kid Y because he was the better player, only to find out in the first game that Kid X can't function when his parent is there.
If a kid is going to get spooked and play like crud due to a parents presence I would hope the coach would want that info BEFORE picking the team. |
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rippit
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Posted - 01/21/2015 : 12:31:47
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Hahahahaha. I'm sure the HS coach has already heard a LOT and is well aware. But to tack on to the idea, this is one of those things where the parents need to police each other. I've seen it too.
In 13u, we picked up with a player with a dad that freaked this kid out so bad that we threatened to tie him up in the woods and duct tape his mouth shut if he didn't stay out of the kid's sight line. The kid was a pretty good pitcher too. When he reached about 15u and played weekdays in the PG tourneys, Daddy wasn't there because of work. Kid made All Tournament.
He admitted his dad made him ultra nervous and he'd blow games when big daddy showed up. Never made it past freshman ball at his HS. Hmmmmmm.....
I think your reputation precedes you.
Anyway, we once had a coach at 12u??? that used to tell us to just avoid certain parents and eventually they would go away. That's turning out to be pretty true. Already noticed that for the most part "Mr. or Mrs. Negative's kids" have been cut or didn't show up for tryouts this week.
While there are toxic "couples", we find that it's usually just the dad or just the mom. And the other funny thing is you find couples starting to take separate cars to games or tourneys because of this. Makes you feel bad for the parent who behaves themselves iin this scenario right? |
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Critical Mass
277 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 13:02:27
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| Around these parts, the crazy parents tend to be well known well before tryouts. I like the idea of freshman parents getting a whiff of reality by sizing up the performances of those kids vs Varsity players...but a still against watching the practices in general. |
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Newbie BB Mom
141 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 15:34:22
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Originally posted by rippit
Anyway, we once had a coach at 12u??? that used to tell us to just avoid certain parents and eventually they would go away. That's turning out to be pretty true. Already noticed that for the most part "Mr. or Mrs. Negative's kids" have been cut or didn't show up for tryouts this week.
While there are toxic "couples", we find that it's usually just the dad or just the mom. And the other funny thing is you find couples starting to take separate cars to games or tourneys because of this. Makes you feel bad for the parent who behaves themselves iin this scenario right?
Makes me feel bad for the kid, who can't pick his parents and may have no say in the matter, especially at the younger ages. |
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CaCO3Girl
1989 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 16:19:07
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Originally posted by Newbie BB Mom
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Originally posted by rippit
Anyway, we once had a coach at 12u??? that used to tell us to just avoid certain parents and eventually they would go away. That's turning out to be pretty true. Already noticed that for the most part "Mr. or Mrs. Negative's kids" have been cut or didn't show up for tryouts this week.
While there are toxic "couples", we find that it's usually just the dad or just the mom. And the other funny thing is you find couples starting to take separate cars to games or tourneys because of this. Makes you feel bad for the parent who behaves themselves iin this scenario right?
Makes me feel bad for the kid, who can't pick his parents and may have no say in the matter, especially at the younger ages.
Yeah, I feel bad for the kids...but what kind of parent blows up over a 12u game or their kid's performance (or lack thereof) in that 12u game? What is going on in their head? Do they think they are helping? |
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turntwo
955 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 18:22:59
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Originally posted by CaCO3Girl
Yeah, I feel bad for the kids...but what kind of parent blows up over a 12u game or their kid's performance (or lack thereof) in that 12u game? What is going on in their head? Do they think they are helping?
The same parent that thinks their son is the next Chipper or Jeter. And feels their draft status slipping on every error. |
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ItsGodGiven
70 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 18:56:55
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| I'm pretty sure I made the "spooky" list a long time ago. Oh well, we all can't be perfect parents.... |
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Mad1
252 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2015 : 20:08:48
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| Heard today, first two eight graders on our 13u team made their JV teams, 4 More to hear from. |
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DecaturDad
619 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2015 : 09:52:15
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Originally posted by Mad1
Heard today, first two eight graders on our 13u team made their JV teams, 4 More to hear from.
Congrats on them making the team. It is a big accomplishment.
One question: Is the 8th grade housed on the same property as the high school? if not, I would think the kids could really feel like outsiders. (My son was the only freshman to make varsity last year, so he got to carry the ball bucket to practice, etc. I thought it was a fine practice as a way to get the younger kids to earn their stripes. But as an eight grader, they may feel more intimidated.)
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Mad1
252 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2015 : 14:34:30
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Originally posted by DecaturDad
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Originally posted by Mad1
Heard today, first two eight graders on our 13u team made their JV teams, 4 More to hear from.
Congrats on them making the team. It is a big accomplishment.
One question: Is the 8th grade housed on the same property as the high school? if not, I would think the kids could really feel like outsiders. (My son was the only freshman to make varsity last year, so he got to carry the ball bucket to practice, etc. I thought it was a fine practice as a way to get the younger kids to earn their stripes. But as an eight grader, they may feel more intimidated.)
Yes, their schools are housed together with the with middle school and high school on opposite sides of the athletic playing fields. Most the schools in this county are set up that way which makes it a great convenience. Had our third player make it today, All 6 we have trying out at different schools and different tryout schedules. If they have enough players, they field a 9th grade team, JV and Varsity, otherwise just JV and Varsity. |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2015 : 14:12:26
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I went and watched the local high school tryout for my district and guess what I don't even have a son playing. I love the game love watching tryouts and like to see what the coach is like.
I think if a coach doesn't want parents there he is hiding something. He is either embarrassed about his skills as a coach or can't hold back the F bombs. I don't know if a coach can ban parents from practice in the state of Georgia but I would bet money if a coach is doing that he is doing something he shouldn't be doing. |
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Critical Mass
277 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2015 : 09:55:37
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| Hi my name is Critical Mass and I'm a baseball junkie. A few days ago my wife prompted me to escort her to the practice where our Senior boys were scrimmaging Juniors. I respectfully declined and she gave me the "look". I might add , my son threw an inning or to 5 batters and there was a Padres scout there, so that is how I reconciled my presence there. I hope you can forgive me and thank me for sharing. :) |
Edited by - Critical Mass on 01/24/2015 10:20:44 |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2015 : 08:25:41
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Originally posted by GeorgiaBaseball
Stay away, far, far away. It's time to let go and allow little Johnny to grow up. You will look silly, maybe even a little creepy lurking from the parking lot. Some teams have a scrimmage to wrap up their try out week. Sometime parents are invited. Sometimes they are not.
This right here. I didn't and the first event after the final cut was a scrimmage, so that was the first I saw.I probably said 50 words to the coach in the 4 years of HS Ball. Mostly "good luck" and "thanks for a great year".
After coaching my son from 7-14 YO and attending a lot of his 15U practices and all of the local games, I felt like it was time for him to fly on his own. I actually tried to step back at 14, but the paid coaches didn't work out and I ended up having to run practices and coach third for the last half of the season. I never did a lineup that year except when the paid coaches showed up late for the last game of the year.
Worked out just fine. If you've done your job it's amazing how well they do when you let go. |
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bballman
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Posted - 01/26/2015 : 09:50:29
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I said it before and I'll say it again. There is a difference between letting go and wanting to watch your son play baseball. I still don't think there is anything wrong with watching. I say soak it ALL in because before you know it, you will be sitting there on senior night wondering where all the time went. I still can picture and feel the emotions of my son getting ready for HS tryouts as a freshman. Seems like yesterday to me and he is now a junior in college. I am now saying that about his college career. I can't believe he's a junior already and next year will be his last.
Letting go means not getting involved in his HS team. Letting go means not yelling at him when he's at the plate to do something mechanical or giving him instructions when he's on the mound. Letting go means not second guessing the coach's decisions and telling your son coach should have done something different. It basically means to stop trying to be his coach and start just being his dad or mom. That's not to say you can't still work with your son on his mechanics or throw with him or throw BP to him or hit him ground balls away from the team. But it means you are not his coach. It's not your business whether he gets on the field. It's not your business where he hits in the lineup. Being his dad or mom means that you just want to watch him play. I say soak up every minute of that you can.
If you are the kind of parent that cannot stay quiet and just HAVE to say something, then by all means stay away. If you just want to be a parent and soak up all of your son's baseball that you can - I say do it. It won't last forever. |
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BaseballMom6
233 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2015 : 10:26:03
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Bballman- well said. Watching and supporting your kids is something that I don't think should ever stop. My son is a freshman this year, and I have been lucky enough to see a bit of the scrimmaging at their tryouts last week. I was pleasantly surprised to see just how many parents were out there just watching their sons, most of them parents of upperclassmen. I only heard one parent yell at his son while he was at the plate, and all the parents looked at him and distanced themselves from that parent. All the rest were just there enjoying the opportunity to show support to their player and watch. That doesn't mean we as parents couldn't "let go".
Hitandrun - I couldn't agree more that a coach that doesn't want any parents around watching has something to hide.
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2015 : 11:51:32
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Well the practices were open, so there was room for all kind of approaches, from going to every practice to going occasionally, to my approach.
My other son was in the Orchestra. I didn't go to their practices either. |
Edited by - AllStar on 01/26/2015 11:55:46 |
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