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rippit
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 Posted - 01/22/2015 : 20:31:01
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Okay. What should get more attention? The kid who used to be fat but grew out of it or the skinny kid who is now looking like he's putting on weight?
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DecaturDad
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Posted - 01/22/2015 : 21:19:37
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| Why does it matter? It would be the kid who is the best player and shows the most potential. |
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bballman
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Posted - 01/22/2015 : 21:33:33
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Whichever one is the better baseball player?
What do you mean by more attention? And what does it really matter what someone used to be? You look at two ball players and decide which one will benefit your team more. I think it's as simple as that.
More information about the situation would be helpful. |
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nastycurve
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Posted - 01/22/2015 : 21:37:23
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Depends if either of them grows or reduces to a muscle bound frame. Mine was slender when he was younger, then grew to be a larger kid, not fat but stocky(we were calling him Buddy lee in addition to his nickname of T-bone)... From there he got a little taller, thinner and started putting on muscle and hasnt stopped yet. August of 2013 he was 5'10" 165, this past December he was 6'1" 205.
Usually, Bigger kid = power, skinny kid = speed, as they get closer to middle I guess its about what they retain from their former self and obtain from the size they are becoming. |
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2015 : 09:37:10
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I agree. It shouldn't matter...I was just making sure I hadn't lost my mind after overhearing certain things yesterday. I too believe it should be the kid who is the best player but the peanut gallery seemed to be pointed in the other direction.
I also asked the question wrong. I'm trying to figure out if YOU would lean toward the skinny kid who is filling out over the ex big boy all things being equal.
As to potential, this may be where the disconnect is. Should the kid who has the "projectable frame" get attention over the kid who does it better TODAY? I say no.
This brings up another point: what do you do when a kid with a "projectable frame" is like 4th in line for his one and only position? Or the 7th PO?
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CaCO3Girl
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Posted - 01/23/2015 : 10:07:30
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I would question what age you are talking about. At 9u my son was the larger kid who hit for power but you were scarred to send him from 3rd on a passed ball. He played with a boy who was a skinny little thing that ran like the wind...by the time the pitcher could get the bunt the kid was on 1st.
Fast forward to 12u, my son still hits for power, but he has slimmed out with his additional 10 inches of height since then and has become a base stealer....while the super skinny kid is putting on weight without a height change (which could be coming any day) and no longer dependable to get on base.
I would guess the age and what type of weight was being put on would be vital to answer your question. |
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bballman
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Posted - 01/23/2015 : 11:32:37
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I would say if you are talking about college - a long term, 4 year projection - you go with the guy who you think will be better over the next several years. If you are talking about a travel team, you take the guy who is the best and meets the team's needs now. It will only be a one year commitment, who cares what he will look like or play like in two or three years.
Rippit, what age are we talking about? What is the situation? Travel team? HS team? recruiting for college? You are talking about "attention" and "projection" so these questions are important. |
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nastycurve
244 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2015 : 17:47:12
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| Chicks dig the long ball. Go with who can hit dingers. ;-) |
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rippit
667 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2015 : 18:24:29
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ItsGodGiven
70 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2015 : 09:02:43
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| This is an interesting topic...how many of you have that Dad on your team that has their kid on an extreme nutritional regiment? I'm talking about tracking calorie intake, protein shakes, muscle milk, nutella, etc. Extreme calorie intake to maximize growth and to add muscle. This Dad weighs his kid everyday and measures his height frequently. This Dad will not let his kid stay up past a certain time in order to maximize that "deep sleep" that helps facilitate growth. I'm talking about a Dad that did this with a 12/13 year old kid. At what point does this go from fatherly concern to fatherly obsession? |
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Critical Mass
277 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2015 : 09:44:34
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| I've heard that Fat kids are hard to kidnap, so you may not need to watch over them as much at the larger tournaments if they lag behind the group. |
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DecaturDad
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Posted - 01/24/2015 : 12:07:59
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Originally posted by Critical Mass
I've heard that Fat kids are hard to kidnap, so you may not need to watch over them as much at the larger tournaments if they lag behind the group.
I have one of those "big kids". At 12, people were asking if he drove to the game. One day when he was 12 or 13, he asked his mom if he could walk to the store. When she hesitated, he said "Mom, no one is going to kidnap me". And he was right. She let him go :-)
By the way. That big slow kid has now turned into a bigger, fast kid. |
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jacjacatk
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Posted - 01/24/2015 : 15:11:02
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Originally posted by rippit
As to potential, this may be where the disconnect is. Should the kid who has the "projectable frame" get attention over the kid who does it better TODAY? I say no.
This brings up another point: what do you do when a kid with a "projectable frame" is like 4th in line for his one and only position? Or the 7th PO?
If you're a HS coach and you're looking at a bunch of 14-15 year old freshmen, if one of them is 6'3" 160 and doesn't look like he's ever shaved and the other is 5'11" 185 and has a 5 o'clock shadow you'd be a fool not to consider projectability as part of the equation. It doesn't have to be the primary factor, but it can't be ignored if you want to field the best Varsity team you can when those freshmen are juniors and seniors. |
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Size change debate
