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743
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 Posted - 12/17/2008 : 13:00:11
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| I used to hate hearing kids chanting in the dugout, now I just hate it less. I think they enjoy it, but at what age does it end? |
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oldcoach
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 15:33:22
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Well i am 67 years old ,and i am still chanting and cheering along with my son and team,I hope it never ends.
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cop311
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 15:35:50
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| Good question. I hate it too. My kid sister did that junk playing girls softball. |
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AllStar
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 16:00:22
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Originally posted by 743
I used to hate hearing kids chanting in the dugout, now I just hate it less. I think they enjoy it, but at what age does it end?
The 10 YO Rec team I coached stopped at some point in the season. They just decided it wasn't cool. :)
It didn't bother me one way or the other, so I didn't even know we had quit until one of the players said something about the other team doing it.
I honestly don't remember hearing any during 11 YO or since. |
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homerunking
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 17:26:57
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| This year we started doing it before the start of every game..When we were on a come back or the bats were hot we would start..sometime we would tell the kids to stop if we were up big or playing a team that DIDN'T chatter... |
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WaltDem
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 19:31:11
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Originally posted by 743
I used to hate hearing kids chanting in the dugout, now I just hate it less. I think they enjoy it, but at what age does it end?
Depends on what you call cheering.
We took in the College Word Series this past summer. Those late teens and early 20s guys in the dugouts are still making all kinds of noise I didnt see one of them sit down on the bench the entire Series they all stand and its all good.
When you get too "cool" to have a little emotion out there its time for a new sport.
I would rather know : when do the temper tantrums stop from the kids who can not handle failure due to immaturity.Thats what I am tired of hearing. And watching. |
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greglomax
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Posted - 12/17/2008 : 22:48:00
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Walt,
I think it's the softball chants that drives everyone crazy. I do love to hear the players cheer on each other. Cheering on their batter, or their pitcher, etc, is great but the "Three and Two, what ya gonna do? Walk him, Walk him." chants have to go. |
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Mike Corbin
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Posted - 12/18/2008 : 00:48:04
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I think what 743 is refering to is the "organized" cheers. The ones like "were fired up are you fired up..yeah!" then repeat like five or six times. Not just the kids getting fired up.
I think that the players should show some emotions when the team is doing well or a kid that had been strugling for a while come through at a big moment. But a kid throwing a temper tantrum because he made a mistake is unacceptable! And the coaches that allow it to go on because that player happens to be his son or one of the "studs" is also unaceptable.
Sorry, I got off track there. I don't like it ("organized cheers") either and hope that our 11u year has way less of it or none at all. I'm all for the kids cheering for good things happening for their team but no softball cheers please. |
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743
215 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2008 : 07:56:30
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| I have never seen a college or professional baseball team cheering in unison. Chatter is one thing and getting excited when someone does something amazing is another. I had a Domincian ball player tell me once, "if we didn't celebrate and get a little emotional when something good happened we would be playing another sport like soccer". |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 12/18/2008 : 10:43:27
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Originally posted by greglomax
the "Three and Two, what ya gonna do? Walk him, Walk him." chants have to go.
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WJrWolverines
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Posted - 12/18/2008 : 10:50:31
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Cheering for your team or chatter for your teammate at the plate is great - We're talking about the 10 yr old chants, jeering, yelling when the opposing pitcher is delivering, etc. The Bush League stuff.
We're a rising 14U team and we still saw some of this last season as 13U and even once this Fall - seems to be more prevalent (not exclusive!) in N. GA and smaller more rural areas. No offense to anybody except if you still allow your team to do it at 13, 14 and even 12. It reveals a lot about the coaching. |
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BREAMKING
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Posted - 12/18/2008 : 11:45:38
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| I do not thing I have ever had a team do the softball chants. I do not really like them but never really came up with any team I have coached. We do play on emotion when we have to but that kind of emotion is fake and does not work... |
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ECB 13U Braves
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Posted - 12/28/2008 : 21:17:34
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| I guess as long as they are allowed or encouraged they'll continue the chants. I don't mind cheering for their own team, but agree that trying to distract the other team is not real baseball. |
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mammabee
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Posted - 12/28/2008 : 22:45:46
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That will happen when the coach or parent steps up to the plate and sits the player now not one but two or more games.
OUr coachs had done it in past over years the greatest thing ever happened to both the team and the player !
THis all starts at home OK - so the coach will usual have to be one to set it all straight.
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Originally posted by WaltDem
I would rather know : when do the temper tantrums stop from the kids who can not handle failure due to immaturity.Thats what I am tired of hearing. And watching.
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homerunking
110 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2008 : 07:51:11
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| Well since we are on this topic of what we don't like about the TEAM CHEERING, I hate when a 3rd base coach is yelling at the runner on first telling him to get more of a jump or running down the third base line TRYING to show the kid how far down he wants him to go EVERYTIME!!! Now that to me is worse than the TEAM CHEERING from the KIDS!!!!!!!! If a coach is trying to get in a kids head while he is pitching is LOWER than anything to me!!!!!!!!!! And this is not just in N.GA either LOL......... |
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HITANDRUN
436 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2008 : 09:08:35
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I think you all make valid points, the cheering stops when the coach gives his players and parents a list of rules before the season. No eating in the dugout, no leaving the dugout, no cheerleading and on. Who ever is the leader on the team will probably set the standard for what goes on in the dugout early in the season.
As far as the temper tantrums, I agree sitting a player when he disrespects the game, coaches, umpire, his team the other team. I don't know if that will change his behavior much but if he wants to play he will realize he wont play much having a temper tantrum. Maybe some of the coaches who have been around awhile can tell us what they have seen. Seems to be alot of crying and temper tantrums from 7 to 12, I haven't seen many 12 and up games so I wouldnt know if kids cry when they strike out or not. I imagine the kid would be embarrassed to cry at 12? |
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WaltDem
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Posted - 12/29/2008 : 10:43:26
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Yea the Coach needs to be the real leader setting the standard for behavior .
Most do a good job .
Still, too much , the ' brat ' of the team may be one of the top players at least for the moment. So he goes free .
Word gets around right quickly. It will catch up to him and Coach.
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Originally posted by mammabee
That will happen when the coach or parent steps up to the plate and sits the player now not one but two or more games.
OUr coachs had done it in past over years the greatest thing ever happened to both the team and the player !
THis all starts at home OK - so the coach will usual have to be one to set it all straight.
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Originally posted by WaltDem
I would rather know : when do the temper tantrums stop from the kids who can not handle failure due to immaturity.Thats what I am tired of hearing. And watching.
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