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HOTHAND
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 Posted - 01/22/2009 : 10:09:26
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| 13U Major this year seems to have more teams that moved up from AAA. Any thoughts on this? How will these Major teams break down? |
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beanball
222 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 11:58:23
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Allow me to explain what will happen @ the 13U major level. Very quickly the teams well be split into two distinct groups, elite and everybody else. The teams like the Astros and other independent teams will recruit the biggest/strongest players. It will not be uncommon to see a 13U player 6'+ and near 200 lbs. The elite teams will dominate the group. The "everybody else" will be very good teams just not able to stick with the elite for 6 or 7 innings. Size determines the success of the team.
Just the facts.
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FB COACH
25 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 12:07:03
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| Are there really 23 Major teams in Georgia? Only 11 of the 23 listed played Major in 08 and atleast a couple of those should have maybe reconsidered their classification for 09. I counted 10 teams moving up from AAA with maybe half of those rightfully so and the other half of them leaving you scratching your head, I mean when your under 500 in AAA one year,why would you want to play Major the next year? And there were 2 teams listed that I have never heard of.Maybe the Major listing is an ego thing for some teams,I don't know.I just know that with all the talent some of these teams have, combined with the bigger playing demensions,some of these teams are going to get seriously embarrased on the field, and thats not a good thing for either team. |
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greglomax
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Posted - 01/22/2009 : 12:39:10
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| I thought there were only 3 or 4 that moved up from AAA? Now there were a slew of AA teams that got moved up to AAA, though. |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 14:04:40
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I think only three were required to. 5 Tool Nationals, WP Panthers and Outlaw Baseball.
The only one that I saw much of was WP. I'm not sure how they will do in Majors, but they were the best AAA team I saw last year. |
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bigdog
231 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 14:28:05
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aside from the Astros, Viper and Bulldogs the division is wide open. I would say probably the major difference between the next level of those teams is the pitching depth. And those teams have the experience playing at that elite level.
I know those 3 stand out. And there may be some blow outs against the 2nd tier major teams. But I think there also will be some suprises. Look at the Outlaws/Astro game at one of the Triple Crown tournaments this past fall. The Outlaws played extremely well losing 3-2. So, it may not be as bad as some think. |
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bigdog
231 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 16:30:53
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| Allstar, JMHO having played both the Outlaws and WPP last year, I feel the Outlaws were better. They played solid fundamental baseball and were well coached. They beat the WPP at Mazzone en route to winning the tournament. They also finished 3rd at the AAA USSSA World Series. This past fall they beat GA Crush 2x (I dont know if the Crush were missing players) and played the Astros heads up losing 3-2. |
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bigdog
231 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 16:35:43
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two teams that I was suprised that didnt move up via reclassification:
Tyrone Astros and S Gwinnett Comets. The Tyrone Astros were 16-7 in AAA last year with a pwer rating of 1159 and the Comets were 17-8 with a power rating of 1142. I think both would have been as justified to move up as some who did from AAA. |
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ingasven
120 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 16:51:24
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In some cases teams may have wanted to register triple A, but had too many players that played major last year and therefore were forced to register as a major team.
I agree with FB Coach though...a lot of it boils down to ego.
I think everyone familiar with this age group would also agree it's the Vipers, Astros & Bulldog BB and after that there are 6-10 teams that could be the best of the rest depending on what day of the week it is.
You may want to add the Crush to that first group depending on if the right kid is pitching that day. |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 21:38:33
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Originally posted by bigdog
Allstar, JMHO having played both the Outlaws and WPP last year, I feel the Outlaws were better. They played solid fundamental baseball and were well coached. They beat the WPP at Mazzone en route to winning the tournament. They also finished 3rd at the AAA USSSA World Series. This past fall they beat GA Crush 2x (I dont know if the Crush were missing players) and played the Astros heads up losing 3-2.
You're probably right. That's why I usually don't wade into these discussions. I didn't see Outlaws at Mazzone and every time I saw WP anywhere they were hammering someone. Hard as it is to believe, I've never seen the 5 Tools team. |
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FB COACH
25 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2009 : 10:34:46
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"I think everyone familiar with this age group would also agree it's the Vipers, Astros & Bulldog BB and after that there are 6-10 teams that could be the best of the rest depending on what day of the week it is."
Who and in what order are those 6-10 teams ? |
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Dr. Old School
314 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2009 : 15:52:52
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The difficult part is to assess which players have moved to which teams. You can't exactly go by team name for this decision.
The front runners on the next list of teams would have to include (in alphabetical order):
*EC Stallions
*GA Crush
*ProSpot Fitness (formerly N GA Bombers)
*SW Express
The following teams will have to see how their teams Gel and adjust to the new size field:
*EC Longhorns
*EC Combat
*Hobgood Heat
I think the following teams will fight it out on the lower end of the Major grouping but most likely will have sub .500 record in the Major division:
*5 tool Nationals
*EC Warriors
*Forsyth Outlaws
*Kennesaw Mustangs
*Outlaws Baseball
*Sandy Springs Longhorns
*Sharon Springs Spartans
*Web Bridge Bulldogs
The teams that take advantage of the bigger field will be successful, the ones with lack of speed will struggle. |
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coachdan06
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 00:51:15
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Originally posted by Dr. Old School
The teams that take advantage of the bigger field will be successful, the ones with lack of speed will struggle.
Dont know a thing for these teams or the age group but:
Most definite the foot speed quickness and physical size + physical strength of the players now plays a huge part toward success as you draw near the final dimensions of High school College professional baseball.
Weaker or chunky or kids who cant run fast just wont make it on a competitive level anymore.
No longer on a little field that a bunt or misplayed ball wa11 was a legged out hit.
What was a flare hit over the infield before is now a routine easy liner or popup
What was a home run on a 11 to 12 year olds field is now just a long out .
Dont mean these kids shouldnt stay with the sport on a lower skill level it is always a kids game and the best one I know  . |
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HOTHAND
14 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 08:22:48
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Dr. Old School
Which teams have really improved and which teams have not? |
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FB COACH
25 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 10:38:40
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DR.OLD SCHOOL
I agree with your front runner list but I would have to add Oulaws Baseball to that list based on their fall performance alone.
Where are the Gresham Park teams? They were always very competitive. |
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AllStar
762 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 11:45:34
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Originally posted by HOTHAND
Dr. Old School
Which teams have really improved and which teams have not?
I don't think that anybody's done much but scrimmage and not much of that.
Astros have a strong roster. That insight is worth big bucks. :)
The Triple Crown tournament has an interesting field the last weekend of Feb as does the Forsyth Slugfest. We'll start to get an idea then, but certainly neither field is comprehensive. |
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ingasven
120 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 15:15:51
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FB Coach,
This is just my opinion and I hope everyone reading this really understands what I'm saying...
Using Dr. Old School's list The Crush are really the only team in group one and IMO, 10 of the other 14 will change pecking order on a weekly basis. I just don't see there being anything allowing me to distinguish any of those 10 as definitely being ahead of the others as far as making a prediction for the complete year. Every one of those teams have questions surrounding them, but any one of maybe 10 could end the year as "the best of the rest."
The only consesus prediction is that PCV, Astros and Bulldogs will distance themselves from the field (I'll still say The Crush have the potential to be mentioned with the "Big 3").
This should make for a fun year if us "also-rans" set our goals for success (I mean after the prerequisite, have fun, or someone will torch me) on beating the crud out of each other and hoping for the best when we Davids face the Goliaths!
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Dr. Old School
314 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2009 : 20:14:47
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Ok, here is a little of my logic. The Stallions lost all but 2 of their players from last year (5 to the Astros and 3 to the EC Longhorns) but they reloaded with pitching depth and hitting. I give them as good of a chance as they had last year.
I think the Outlaws, Combat, and other teams moving from AAA to Major will need some time to prove they have the depth to compete at the Major level. I don't doubt their ability, but they will need time to prove their depth passed one game. I wish them well.
The Crush will need to prove their depth as well. Other than the Elite Travel Classic they did not show up strong last year. Maybe they have added some additional pieces, who knows, but once tournaments start, everyone will have an opportunity to prove their worth in the list.
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greglomax
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Posted - 02/14/2009 : 17:15:11
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| All I know is that it is about to start up in the next week or so, so all I can say is "Let the playing begin!!!!!" Talk is fun in the off-season but now it is time for the boys to get out there and play the game. |
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bbman13
7 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2009 : 21:45:48
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Top teir teams in South East
GA Astros
FL Team Hammer
AL ?
MS Terminators
TN ?
SC ?
NC ?
Can anyone fill in the ?
I feel that the some of the GA teams have some of the top tier players,but one or two will not be enough to win on a national basis.
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 10:10:52
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| A great 13u team from Fl are the Bay County Diamond Dawgs. They just won the Hammock Bay Classic in North Fl. |
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WaltDem
51 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 10:26:22
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Ma youre on the right track there
EC teams listed are from kids just shuffled around from other EC teams. So flip a coin
expect some teams to rise and surprise during the season
expect some teams this to be their last season : 60-90 looms.
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Originally posted by mammabee
we've watched alot of these kids play for years now Doc
maybe a couple changes to your list
east cobb Stallions and ProFitness As are spankin new teams
you cant say As are formerly the Bombers as USSSA says only 4 are left and says only 2 are left from the Stallions.
that doesnnt nearly enough make repeat teams
i take those out for the top 4 put in the Outlaws baseball and H Heat who have the core from proven teams & keep the SW express there plus Crush
Then we wait and see!
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Originally posted by Dr. Old School
The difficult part is to assess which players have moved to which teams. You can't exactly go by team name for this decision.
The front runners on the next list of teams would have to include (in alphabetical order):
*EC Stallions
*GA Crush
*ProSpot Fitness (formerly N GA Bombers)
*SW Express
The following teams will have to see how their teams Gel and adjust to the new size field:
*EC Longhorns
*EC Combat
*Hobgood Heat
I think the following teams will fight it out on the lower end of the Major grouping but most likely will have sub .500 record in the Major division:
*5 tool Nationals
*EC Warriors
*Forsyth Outlaws
*Kennesaw Mustangs
*Outlaws Baseball
*Sandy Springs Longhorns
*Sharon Springs Spartans
*Web Bridge Bulldogs
The teams that take advantage of the bigger field will be successful, the ones with lack of speed will struggle.
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lifeguard
74 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2009 : 12:41:34
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bbman,
NC - Charlotte MegaStars, Predators
SC - Extreme and Laurens Lightning if they're still together.
TN - Knoxville Stars, Jackson Coyotes, Memphis Travelers
AL - Bandits??? well, they won the Major WS last season.
Probably missed some, but I did see all of these teams play last season. |
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bigdog
231 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 05:37:40
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| lifeguard....not sure about your NC pick the Megastars. The have had turnover for whatever reason. 5 of their players from last year went to the Charlotte Hurricanes. |
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bigdog
231 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 05:49:15
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| 10BB Having played the Diamond Dawgs last year and beat them, I dont know if I would call them great. Good would be better. |
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10 BB
264 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2009 : 17:25:12
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| The Diamond Dawgs have picked up pitching and hitting in the off season |
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