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Bravemom

204 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2018 :  18:15:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone have a throwing program they recommend near the East Cobb area?

Also, what do people expect from an arm throwing program from a pratical standpoint ? In other words, is it like speed and agility where kids should go 2-3 times a week and do some arm excercises or what?

Bravemom

204 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2018 :  05:58:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bueller.....Bueller....Bueller?
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27outs

9 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2018 :  09:52:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chris Cumberland 678-852-8678
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bama21

278 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2018 :  11:03:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LONG TOSS. That's the best thing and one less thing you have to pay for. He can throw with a friend or parent.
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Gus Ball Still Wins

77 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2018 :  14:30:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Straight from Dr. James Andrews. This includes exercises and throwing program, plus some other stuff.

http://www.andrewsortho.org/getortho.php?name=Rehabilitation_Conditioning_Exercises

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CaCO3Girl

1989 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2018 :  12:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good throwing program has many many many aspects. The number one authority on throwing programs is Driveline. It's unclear who knows better though, because most of what Driveline does is in direct contradiction to Dr. Andrews.

They put the instructions out there on the internet, and you can buy the tools off of amazon. Just please have a knowledgeable person doing this, don't let the kid do it alone.
https://www.drivelinebaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/driveline-baseball_8-week-program.pdf
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Hurricane22

100 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2018 :  15:51:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
REST is also hugely important. Obviously how much, how long, when is debatable.

To be honest, it kind of irks me that I get Showcase email for Ft. Myers for Dec 28-31 when I pretty much know everyone has shut down arms for the winter Nov-Jan (at least our age group). This is recipe for disaster. Kid goes out, tries to show his stuff, over does it, injury. No thanks.
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SuperStar

257 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2018 :  19:00:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hurricane22

REST is also hugely important. Obviously how much, how long, when is debatable.

To be honest, it kind of irks me that I get Showcase email for Ft. Myers for Dec 28-31 when I pretty much know everyone has shut down arms for the winter Nov-Jan (at least our age group). This is recipe for disaster. Kid goes out, tries to show his stuff, over does it, injury. No thanks.



I agree..., go figure someone is trying to make some money regardless of the damage that can be done.

Word of advice to all folks going to let their kid participate in a showcase in the future. Have your kid train and workout with the baseball related drills at least 6 weeks before the showcase so they will be ready to perform and also so they don't get injured. My son just done the August 25th-26th showcase. So I watched first hand and you could tell the kids that haven't picked up a baseball since mid July.

Edited by - SuperStar on 08/29/2018 20:20:28
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CaCO3Girl

1989 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2018 :  07:05:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If anyone is doing a showcase or event to get recruited they may want to check the quiet periods. Here is a link for the 2018-2019 dates:

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018-19DIREC_BaseballRecruitingCalendar_20180628.pdf

If you don't know what a quiet period is, here is the definition: A quiet period occurs when a coach at an NCAA institution cannot have any in-person contact with a prospective student-athlete or their parents outside of the colleges campus. Coaches can't go to see any of the athlete's sporting events or their practices.

So those December showcases....what's the point? They are DURING a quiet period!
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bama21

278 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2018 :  09:26:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My son has done the PG showcase in Ft. Myers after Christmas. Obviously, you need to get your arm and body in shape before going.

There are a couple advantages:
1) The weather is typically good in Florida.
2) It is a quiet period, for me that meant all the coaches are going to be bored and you better believe they are looking at this event and the numbers that are being put up. PG also puts videos online while the event is going on.

Sometimes it is better to go to a showcase when there is nothing else going on, during the summer they are being pulled in many different directions.
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Around_the_Horn

31 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2018 :  17:16:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

If anyone is doing a showcase or event to get recruited they may want to check the quiet periods. Here is a link for the 2018-2019 dates:

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018-19DIREC_BaseballRecruitingCalendar_20180628.pdf

If you don't know what a quiet period is, here is the definition: A quiet period occurs when a coach at an NCAA institution cannot have any in-person contact with a prospective student-athlete or their parents outside of the colleges campus. Coaches can't go to see any of the athlete's sporting events or their practices.

So those December showcases....what's the point? They are DURING a quiet period!




I thought that college coaches could not contact players until Sept 1 of their Junior year. But the link shows that Sept 1st is in the middle of a quiet period. What am I missing, or is the NCAA that messed up?

The point of Dec showcase, and most showcases, is $$$.
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CaCO3Girl

1989 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2018 :  07:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Around_the_Horn

quote:
Originally posted by CaCO3Girl

If anyone is doing a showcase or event to get recruited they may want to check the quiet periods. Here is a link for the 2018-2019 dates:

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2018-19DIREC_BaseballRecruitingCalendar_20180628.pdf

If you don't know what a quiet period is, here is the definition: A quiet period occurs when a coach at an NCAA institution cannot have any in-person contact with a prospective student-athlete or their parents outside of the colleges campus. Coaches can't go to see any of the athlete's sporting events or their practices.

So those December showcases....what's the point? They are DURING a quiet period!




I thought that college coaches could not contact players until Sept 1 of their Junior year. But the link shows that Sept 1st is in the middle of a quiet period. What am I missing, or is the NCAA that messed up?

The point of Dec showcase, and most showcases, is $$$.



A quiet period occurs when a coach at an NCAA institution cannot have any in-person contact with a prospective student-athlete or their parents outside of the colleges campus. Coaches can't go to see any of the athlete's sporting events or their practices.
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HustlePlay

10 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2018 :  12:08:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would suggest you check out Rapid Sports Performance if you haven’t already. They do great work and ensure that your player is getting a full body workout in addition to arm/throwing exercises. About $40-$45 per session, so not cheap. They have a forum on this site if you scroll down. My son has benefitted greatly.
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CaCO3Girl

1989 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2018 :  07:35:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HustlePlay

I would suggest you check out Rapid Sports Performance if you haven’t already. They do great work and ensure that your player is getting a full body workout in addition to arm/throwing exercises. About $40-$45 per session, so not cheap. They have a forum on this site if you scroll down. My son has benefitted greatly.


Rapid is great for all around conditioning of a baseball players body. BUT (y'all knew I'd have a but), this is NOT an arm throwing program. Rapid is about the entire body being balanced and gaining strength. If someone has a specific goal, like increasing their pitching speed, rapid isn't going to do this for you in the short term. Over time, sure, but then again they will all get stronger over time.

I'm not knocking Rapid, I really like those guys, they do great conditioning work. However, they aren't an arm throwing program, which is what the OP asked for.
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MAHER

31 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2018 :  23:20:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Matt Hightower runs Velocity Camp and I am a huge fan. I have nearly 20 years of professional coaching experience and highly recommend it. He teaches mechanics and uses two of the best drills I've ever used to develop arm speed (Run & Gun and Turn & Burn). They also do a lot of leg work and my son at 8 and 9 threw 100s of balls during the drills and his arm felt BETTER at the end of it than it did before he started. Here is the info (and I get nothing for recommending the program other than knowing you are in good hands with Matt and crew).

VELOCITY TRAINING CAMP with
Matt Hightower
East Cobb Baseball
Director of Baseball Operations

eastcobbmatt@gmail.com
404.597.0930

Edited by - MAHER on 09/25/2018 07:54:41
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Critical Mass

277 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2018 :  08:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My son's pitching coach always advised against any program where weighted balls or arms were thrown.
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CaCO3Girl

1989 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2018 :  09:19:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recently heard that DBAT out of Kennesaw is doing the Driveline program I mentioned earlier in novemeber.

Although, I do also recommend Matt, just not sure he's doing the driveline program.
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743

215 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2018 :  10:02:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just curious how old is your son now?

quote:
Originally posted by MAHER

Matt Hightower runs Velocity Camp and I am a huge fan. I have nearly 20 years of professional coaching experience and highly recommend it. He teaches mechanics and uses two of the best drills I've ever used to develop arm speed (Run & Gun and Turn & Burn). They also do a lot of leg work and my son at 8 and 9 threw 100s of balls during the drills and his arm felt BETTER at the end of it than it did before he started. Here is the info (and I get nothing for recommending the program other than knowing you are in good hands with Matt and crew).

VELOCITY TRAINING CAMP with
Matt Hightower
East Cobb Baseball
Director of Baseball Operations

eastcobbmatt@gmail.com
404.597.0930


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CaCO3Girl

1989 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2018 :  13:55:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Critical Mass

My son's pitching coach always advised against any program where weighted balls or arms were thrown.



There is that theory of thought out there for sure! Kyle Boddy (driveline) and Dr. Andrews (father of Tommy John Surgeries) conflict in their teachings OFTEN.

I know Dr. Andrews did some interesting tests with cadavers regarding how much pressure they could take, and that as well as his observations is what he makes his recommendations on.

But I also know that many colleges and MLB teams are picking up the Driveline torch, and they have some serious investments in those arms, they wouldn't do anything to harm them would they?

My thoughts on the matter are, until you are shaving at least once a week don't do a weighted ball program. Which are also my thoughts on weight lifting.
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643dpathletics

185 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2018 :  08:21:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a better arm care and throwing program in the southeast as the one given by Gene Ross. He is an expert on the subject and the only person in this area that has been certified by Dr. James Andrews, The Research & Baseball Institute, National Pitching Association, and Sports Science & Performance Institute.

His summary bio is as follows:

PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE:
Professional baseball pitcher with the Pittsburg Pirates and Minnesota Twins

COLLEGE EXPERIENCE:
Baseball scholarship athlete @ The University of Illinois, Champaign/Urbana, Illinois

COACHING EXPERIENCE:
Certified Pitching Instructor by:
- Complete Athlete/Andrews Institute (Dr. James Andrews, Birmingham, AL)
- Rod Dedeau Research and Baseball Institute @ The Univ. of Southern Calif.
- National Pitching Association
- Sports Science and Performance Institute

Georgia Pitching Academy founder and Director of Instruction & Education

Springfield Baseball/Softball Academy founder and Director of Instruction

Created the most successful off-season conditioning and arm health program in southeastern U.S.

Currently has over 25 former/current student clients playing professional baseball

Head Baseball Coach @ Tri-City High School and Middle School, Sangamon County, Illinois

Elite Travel Ball coach

Extensive experience as a clinic & symposium director and speaker.
Contracted by physical therapy organizations to train their therapists in throwing mechanics and delivered lectures on throwing mechanics/timing/sequencing and overall arm care, health and injury prevention.

6-4-3 DP Baseball's off season arm care program with Gene Ross is now starting to accept students. Please call (678) 354-3199 for more information and to sign up. Thank you.
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