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AlpharettaAutobahn

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Posted - 03/26/2019 :  14:24:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My son is thinking about moving up to a AAA/major team as a pitcher in the fall. Aside from the eyeball test (he's a tall southpaw) what stats are most important to coaches at this level? He's currently on a AA/AAA team. Thanks in advance...

Clearwater42

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Posted - 03/26/2019 :  20:56:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mainly it will be velocity, control and ability to change speeds. Stats donít matter so much because those depend on the competition played. First a P has to be able to throw strikes and not walk too many, but at high AAA/Majors if you throw all fast balls over the plate you could get shelled. So being able to locate inside, outside, keep the ball low and change speeds are key to keeping kids guessing and getting outs. A kid doesnít have to throw hard to be effective but since you said he is big, a kid throwing 70+ at 12U will get noticed at this age and will get a little more leeway on the control. With all that said they are still 12 so none of them are going to hit their spots all the time.
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CaCO3Girl

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Posted - 03/28/2019 :  07:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My question is; why would a 12 year old consider being a PO?

Please don't fall into a very common trap. Some people feel their kid is special at pitching, and therefore MUST be on the best team. His fielding and hitting aren't up to par with the rest of the age group, but his pitching is pretty good so the parents let him move up. This 12-15 year old then sits on the bench 90% of the time. The parents still pay outrageous fees, but the kid doesn't even take batting practice anymore and so he looses his love of the game.

If anyone has instructed you that a 12 year old should be a PO you need to run from that person very fast! No 12, 13, 14, 15 year old should be a PO. Save that stuff for 16u and up. At 12 they should just be having fun out there; if that means he stays on a AA team and is the best pitcher but he gets to play, then he will have a MUCH better time playing baseball, and at 12, baseball should be fun!
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AlpharettaAutobahn

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Posted - 04/11/2019 :  13:20:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I apologize if I'm wrong, but I assume PO means pitcher only? I only listed that as his position because that is what he plays the most. He's also an excellent first baseman, lead off batter that leads his team in steals and home runs. I would never let him just "pitch", my theory is if he is the best player on a team it may be best to move to a better team to get better.
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CaCO3Girl

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Posted - 04/12/2019 :  08:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlpharettaAutobahn

I apologize if I'm wrong, but I assume PO means pitcher only? I only listed that as his position because that is what he plays the most. He's also an excellent first baseman, lead off batter that leads his team in steals and home runs. I would never let him just "pitch", my theory is if he is the best player on a team it may be best to move to a better team to get better.



You said "my theory is if he is the best player on a team it may be best to move to a better team to get better"...then the question has to be; is he in the top 3 at fielding and hitting? If the answer is yes, then by all means move up. Understand though that there is a caveat with the better teams; and it starts around 14u, perhaps even 12u in some cases, that the better a pitcher the kid is the more the team will only want to use him AS a Pitcher (yes PO = Pitcher only)

I've seen it with my son, he had a decent bat, decent fielding, decent all around player.....but oh his pitching....and POOF he was a PO because the coach had 20 kids on the team and he can justify that if your kid pitches every third game then he's playing and he can get another kid in the game at first every now and then over your kid. Also, when a 14u kid can be lights out in pitching you don't want that kid being hurt running the bases or taking an at bat, so he gets put on the bench in a nice little PO box, only to be used for pitching.

My point is; BE CAREFUL! If your kid wants to play baseball then by all means shop around for a higher team; but if they see him pitch you better ask them what role they have in mind for your son because he isn't interested in being a PO. You will likely see several offers retracted at that point OR they just flat out lie to you about your kids role on their team.

A coach told my son last year "You aren't an outfielder, you are a pitcher that I sometimes have to put in the outfield to make you happy"...seriously....that's what you are about to be up against. BE CAREFUL!
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AlpharettaAutobahn

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Posted - 04/16/2019 :  11:40:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info, I will be careful. I know some people who'd roll their eyes reading this but I'd like to think I don't care enough about baseball for my son to ever be on a team strictly to pitch, at least until he's in High School.
I don't understand having a kid on a team of 20, or having practices that end at 10pm. These are some questions that I will bring up to ensure a good fit.
My son will go pro in something other than sports....It's my favorite NCAA slogan from a few years ago that I joke I'm going to get put on shirts and sell them. He doesn't need the scholarship, and if he's not having fun he can find something else to do. I remember everyone telling me how he needs a $300 bat, and constant pitching lessons, etc.... And it's never happened.
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