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Infinity

33 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2011 :  18:27:15  Show Profile
Besides the Astros and Titans, how do the other EC 16U teams compare? Are they all major level or are some AAA level?

RZENTKO

112 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2011 :  14:44:35  Show Profile
aaa
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Gold Glove

129 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2011 :  09:41:16  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by RZENTKO

aaa


If that's the case, then there will only be 5 Major Teams in the area:

6-4-3
Team Elite
Team Georgia
ECB Titans
ECB Astros

But that is not the case; Yankees and Pride have a number of strong players on their team as well. The Patriots and Saints have a number of players that will play on their varsity team this spring. So as always, the answers lie between the white lines.
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gabandit

25 Posts

Posted - 01/26/2011 :  21:01:20  Show Profile
Atlanta Blue Jays are Major
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bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2011 :  09:37:47  Show Profile
I think by the time you reach HS, the Major, AAA, AA, etc all go out the window. My son is 17 and I don't remember playing in any tournaments since 15 with a Major or AAA level attached to it. Are there some teams that are better than others? Sure, but I don't know about the Major, AAA level stuff. Then again, I'm not sure we have played in a USSSA tournament since son was 15. We have played in a couple of 3Crown locally, usually just to get warmed up for the season. Mostly the Perfect Game tournaments and then showcase type tournaments at colleges.
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beanball

222 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2011 :  12:55:27  Show Profile
I tend to agree with BBall about classifications. But if you're going classify Team GA and Team Elite in the catagory with the Astros and Titans then you must add every ECB team and other teams like Nelson baseball, Home Plate, NG Barrons and a half dozen others.
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Gold Glove

129 Posts

Posted - 01/27/2011 :  23:42:52  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by beanball

I tend to agree with BBall about classifications. But if you're going classify Team GA and Team Elite in the catagory with the Astros and Titans then you must add every ECB team and other teams like Nelson baseball, Home Plate, NG Barrons and a half dozen others.



Beanball..didn't you read what I said...the other teams at ECB are right there with the rest of the pack, not quite on the same level as 6-4-3, Astros, TGBA, TE and Titans but certainly not "AAA" (agree we haven't used that term since 14U)...don't think Nelson is there yet, but will be soon...Home Plate would be if they didn't dilute their talent between 3-4 teams....NG Barons are not the same without their Roswell HS players (many of which went to ECB Pride) and who are the half dozen others?
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beanball

222 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2011 :  09:56:29  Show Profile
I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.
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bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 01/28/2011 :  14:32:33  Show Profile
Don't forget, 6-4-3 won the PG 15u World Woodbat Championship last year. They had to have beaten a lot of very good teams from all over the country to do that. That accomplishment alone would put them up there with the Astros and Titans.
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Gold Glove

129 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2011 :  11:48:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by beanball

I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.


TGBA record since 14U against those three is 3-4-1. Sounds like they have proven they are in the same league. Team Elite picked up half a dozen former Astros, 6-4-3 and Titans, so IMO they are there too. But beanball is right, they must prove it on the field.

bballman is correct, 6-4-3 had an outstanding year last year and improved themselves talent wise. Hopefully this won't mess with the great chemistry they had last year. We all have seen what happens when you have 18 superstars and only 9 positions.

It will be a great year.
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beanball

222 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2011 :  01:41:42  Show Profile
Do those three wnis include the two this fall vs the 14U Astros:) I don't recall any wins vs the Titans last year. The fact of the matter is Aaron & DOug are great guys and coaches.

And at this point its really not that important who the "Best Teams" are. the focus for us is to get noticed and we'll be playing mostly showcases this year and USSSA & even Triple crown are really just warm-ups and getting work in. Lets see who go deep into WWBA and CABA and which players are getting prepared for the next level.

Good Luck to all!

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kehndog

88 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2011 :  22:28:19  Show Profile
Its pretty tough to include the 16U EC Astros in any discussion about 16U. They play 17U and 18U teams all summer ... and they're the top 17U team in the PG rankings. Its nearly the same for the 16U EC Titans ... they don't play many area 16U teams either.

Net - net ... just like the comments above regarding throwing out the notion of Major and AAA in the upper age groups, its also appropriate to group the 16U-18U groups as "prep teams" and throw out the age brackets.
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aj94

182 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2011 :  12:52:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by beanball

I tend to agree with BBall about classifications. But if you're going classify Team GA and Team Elite in the catagory with the Astros and Titans then you must add every ECB team and other teams like Nelson baseball, Home Plate, NG Barrons and a half dozen others.



I can assure you that every other ECB team and those other teams you mentioned will not be on the level of Team Elite.
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crackedbats

160 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2011 :  16:20:26  Show Profile
notice you dont see the Astros playing 643 at most tournaments held at ECB? Wonder why?
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w.whambold

6 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2011 :  12:41:33  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by crackedbats

notice you dont see the Astros playing 643 at most tournaments held at ECB? Wonder why?



I firmly believe that neither was intentionally avoiding the other. tournaments sometimes seem to work that way.

I do recall someone telling me that they actually played a game during the week once, where one team was working their pitchers (switching up alot) while the other was going for blood and broken bones... but i wasn't there, so i can't honestly say what happened. wouldn't stand up in court.



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Gamer64

17 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2011 :  16:15:44  Show Profile
The Summer Season has officially begun. the 16U 6-4-3 team made a very impressive showing in the 18U Triple Crown Event this weekend making to the Championship game. The 16U Yankees picked up where they left off this past fall, going 5-0 and winning the 16U Gold Bracket. Should be great summer season.
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mantle11

6 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2011 :  19:07:06  Show Profile
The 16u Astros will dominate the 16u bracket as well as the 17,18 yr old brackets. All of their starters are still in high school playoffs as of now and they have serious arms. The 16u Titans are loaded as well. 6-4-3 will not play the Astros many times this summer and have been offered a chance to have a series of games and said no.
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beanball

222 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2011 :  05:33:49  Show Profile
GG:

So I guess TGBA is right up there with the ECB Yankees. Like I said months ago the Astros and 643 are in a league of therre own. Haven't seen Team Elite yet, But TGBA is NOT in that catagory. As much as you would like them to be.

quote:
Originally posted by Gold Glove

quote:
Originally posted by beanball

I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.


TGBA record since 14U against those three is 3-4-1. Sounds like they have proven they are in the same league. Team Elite picked up half a dozen former Astros, 6-4-3 and Titans, so IMO they are there too. But beanball is right, they must prove it on the field.

bballman is correct, 6-4-3 had an outstanding year last year and improved themselves talent wise. Hopefully this won't mess with the great chemistry they had last year. We all have seen what happens when you have 18 superstars and only 9 positions.

It will be a great year.

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crackedbats

160 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2011 :  10:04:56  Show Profile
16u Perfect Game National Rankings-16u ECB Astros ranked # 3 in the 17u Perfect Games National Rankings. ECB Titans #9 and 643 #12

1 Indiana Prospects Indiana Ohio Valley
2 Marucci Elite Louisiana Sun Belt
3 Houston Banditos Black Texas Sun Belt
4 NorCal Baseball California West Coast
5 Dulins Dodgers Tennessee Deep South
6 Canes Baseball Virginia Atlantic Coast
7 Kentucky Baseball Club Kentucky Ohio Valley
8 Ark La Tex Tornado Louisiana Sun Belt
9 East Cobb Titans Georgia Deep South
10 Tidewater Drillers Virginia Atlantic Coast
11 South Florida Elite Black Florida Sunshine
12 6-4-3 DP Academy Georgia Deep South
13 D-Bat Mustangs-McCabe Texas Sun Belt
14 NorCal Valley California West Coast
15 Team Elite Georgia Deep South
16 Carrollwood Gators Florida Sunshine
17 SC Shockwave South Carolina Atlantic Coast
18 Palm Beach County PAL Florida Sunshine
19 Carolina Cubs North Carolina Atlantic Coast
20 Dirtbags North Carolina Atlantic Coast
21 Diamond Devils South Carolina Atlantic Coast
22 Diamond-Simcox Tennessee Deep South
23 Richmond Braves National Virginia Atlantic Coast
24 Tampa Bay Warriors Florida Sunshine
25 Puerto Rico Storm Puerto Rico Sunshine
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Gold Glove

129 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2011 :  13:02:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by beanball

I just don't think TGBA or TE are at the same level with Astros, Titans or 6-4-3. They'll have to prove it on the field. My opinion is they're right there with the rest of the pack.


Beanball, I guess I should get the grill fired up so I can get your crow ready to eat: Just as I said in the early summer TGBA would prove to be one of the top teams behind ECB Astros. 42-12 for the summer. Of the 12 losses: No. 2 rated 17U Houston Banditos, No. 3 17U rated 16U ECB Astros, No. 1 15U ECB Astros, 2 other 17U team in PG WWBA (both 1 run losses) highly touted 16U Chet Lemon's Juice (quarter finalist in PG WWBA). Beat 16U Titans in only game, run ruled 16U 6-4-3 and 15U Titans in CABA world series. 11-2 in CABA, outscored opponents 150-45. Not bad for an also ran, huh?
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bballman

1432 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2011 :  14:18:22  Show Profile
Sounds impressive. Wonder why they are not ranked in the top 25 by PG? The new rankings are out today.
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Gold Glove

129 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2011 :  14:21:05  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by crackedbats

16u Perfect Game National Rankings-16u ECB Astros ranked # 3 in the 17u Perfect Games National Rankings. ECB Titans #9 and 643 #12

2 Marucci Elite Louisiana Sun
9 East Cobb Titans Georgia Deep South
12 6-4-3 DP Academy Georgia Deep
17 SC Shockwave South Carolina
21 Diamond Devils South Carolina


Beanball,
By the way 5-2 against these teams in the top 25.
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