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baseballnutz
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 Posted - 01/28/2011 : 10:01:48
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This is looking like a strong tournament prior to the slugfest. My early prediction would be an OP vs. Yankees final depending on bracket seeding and pool matchups with Wills Park, 643 and Acworth in the mix.
One other prediction I'll make is one contender will pull an easy pool while the others will face each other early in pool play, just seems to work out that way. Very random I'm sure-:) |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 08:36:33
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| Looks like two strong teams have joined the Spring Frost - OTC and Mill Creek, both can play with anyone. Should make for a strong early tournament. (Wills Park is not entered, must have looked at the Slugfest) |
Edited by - baseballnutz on 02/17/2011 09:05:39 |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2011 : 11:04:45
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| I wonder why TC posted the pools for the Slugfest prior to the Spring Frost? Doesn't make sense to me. |
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TripleCrownAdministrator
240 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2011 : 22:34:44
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Baseballnuts,
The main reason for the Forsyth County Slugfest schedule being out first before the Spring Frost is because the event is totally sold out with all paid teams. Therefore, we can bracket and lock in all of the teams to the scheudule and get it out to everyone early. We are still trying to get penciled teams to get their money in before the deadline on Monday so we can get the Spring Frost schedule out. Plus did not want to have to schedule 250 teams for the Slugfest on the Monday morning that I got back from the Spring Frost. All of you know that I live in St. Augustine, FL and it is a 6 hour ride for all of the Triple Crown staff coming back home from the Atlanta area. |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2011 : 08:24:55
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| TC Admin, Thank you for explaining the reasoning behind it - appreciate it! |
Edited by - baseballnutz on 02/20/2011 08:28:16 |
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baseball4ever101
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Posted - 02/21/2011 : 15:34:36
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So what are the final four predictions?? I would have to go with:
Yankees
Acworth
643
OP |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2011 : 16:17:22
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| Depending on the draw, I'd put OTC and Mill Creek in the mix. |
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travelballer55
18 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2011 : 18:54:02
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| Yankees, OP Sharks, North Cobb, Mill Creek, 643. OTC has 1 or 2 games in them, but not the same caliber team as the others. |
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thomas28
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Posted - 02/21/2011 : 22:14:11
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| tired of all the talk, bring it to the field. otc will be ready. |
Edited by - thomas28 on 02/22/2011 07:35:02 |
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gohornets
32 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 09:26:00
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| Yankees, OP Sharks, North Cobb, 643. Should be fun to watch. |
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MoonShot
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 17:31:12
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Looks like my other prediction came true - never had a doubt.
Favorites going in pool games;
NC Warriors - OP, 643
643 - NC Warriors, EC Titans
OP - NC Warriors, EC Titans
EC Yankees - Georgia Storm, SBA Scorpion
Also Mill Creek plays OTC in pool play.
I wonder who will have to use pitching in pool play for a higher seed? Just seems to work out for some. I thought TD's try to even out the pool games to ensure no team has an unfair advantage going into bracket play amongst the favorites. |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 19:12:55
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| Here is my frustration, this TD seems to favor one team over the others in every event he runs. This team will have to use no pitching in pool play, no pitching in their 1st bracket game most likely Saturday night then have everyone with only two games on Sunday to win the ship. If this was the 1st time I would not take issue but when this is the 3rd year of seeing the same thing it gets old. |
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TripleCrownAdministrator
240 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2011 : 22:57:30
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Baseballnutz,
I am not afraid to explain any part of our scheduling to you and how we come up with the matchups and game times. We are starting this event on Thursday due to the possiblity of having inclement weather on Friday. Almost all of the matchups are based on when teams can play and when they can not. Please call me directly and we can talk this issue over the phone if you are a coach of a team. If you are just a dad speaking out and trying to take aim at Triple Crown Sports, then I have nothing left to say. You can reach me directly in the office at 904-230-3993. I do not take stabs at people and then hide behind a name here on this message board.
Thank you.
Tony VonDolteren
GA Triple Crown Baseball
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southpawdad
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 08:49:08
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| baseballnutz -- how do you explain the spring state championships?? Looks like 3 teams from the same pool ended up in the final four of the gold bracket. Could there have been a tougher pool? |
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Heater
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 10:29:59
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Back to baseball....
My son plays in North GWT, and having watched this Mill Creek team for a couple years I can say first hand they are impressive. They are teleneted enough to beat anyone, on any givien day. |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2011 : 18:40:23
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Originally posted by southpawdad
baseballnutz -- how do you explain the spring state championships?? Looks like 3 teams from the same pool ended up in the final four of the gold bracket. Could there have been a tougher pool?
I believe the other two teams where Shaw Park and Wills Park and up until that point no one saw that run coming.
I'll soften my response since my last was deleted - I'm a numbers guy, look at last years Spring Frost, March Mayhem, Back to School Brawl and now this year Spring Frost. One team plays the bottom half of the teams available while the other favorites battle each other in pool play. One team has a 6pm weeknight game every tournament and an early Sat morning or early afternoon game every tournament.
Look at my 1st post 2nd prediction on this thread from 1/28 - I saw this coming, I should have come on here after the field was set, I could've picked who and when one team played - after awhile it's not a coincedence.
Tony - when teams and families put down all most $500.00 to play a tournament they want to feel like they are getting a fair shake. I talk to many coaches that play your tournaments from our Dizzy Dean days and I am not the only one seeing this and I'm sure this will impact your turnout if it hasn't already. |
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3up3dn
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 21:52:23
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I agree with baseballnutz. There was 9U team last year who always had the easier road to Sunday.
Hopefully this season will not be a repeat of last year but here we go again into tournament #1. I don't post on forums but this is getting old!!! Is this team really that good or do they get easy road? Time will tell. Overall, I think the upcoming 10U teams this year will be much more balanced as some of the other teams are closing the gap on the big dogs. I expect upsets and good 10U baseball this season. |
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sward
369 Posts |
Posted - 02/23/2011 : 22:51:32
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I've played triplecrown for 3 years in GA and a year in FL (Tony's event there). Fall 2009 we played the #1 11U team in the country twice in the same tournament (Pool and then 2nd Bracket game). We went 1-1 in pool and finished 2-2 in the tourney. We enjoyed the chance to see good competition. We come to Tony's tourney because of competition...if your paying $500 for anything else, then find a $350 nearby and try for a trophy.
If you want to challenge your team, then you'll continue to come to Tony's. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, this is just mine. |
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MoonShot
63 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2011 : 07:33:54
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| It should be a competitive tournament. The tournament has 7 Major teams, 3 AAA and 1 AA team. Yes some do have a lesser pool schedule, however come Sunday there will be 8 teams left. Everyone will need to play good baseball against some excellent teams. Let’s see how the bracket plays out. |
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3up3dn
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 08:42:16
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MoonShot & sward,
I do agree to challenge your team early against strong competition and the best teams will be playing late on Sunday...The fact is PITCHING is a HUGE part of winning and it is a very unfair advantage to always have the SAME team rested for sunday bracket play. Other very strong teams use more pitchers early and this is the problem I see with this so called fair & unbiased TD! |
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CenterField
138 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2011 : 08:48:39
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| I guess we will get to see what kind of team the Warriors have. Thats a pretty tough pool draw for them and they are going to have to beat a lot of quality teams to win this one. The Yankees will definitely have an easier road, but in bracket play its still one-and-done. |
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UGA12
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 09:27:11
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Baseballnutz you are not alone. We see this every year with these guys and you just get use to it. Winning the Silver bracket is an honest win in this thing because you have teams playing the finals early in the season that show their depth of competition.
I bet you remember which one it was last year, but the other team from that park that always gets favored actually had a tough draw for pool play when the pools were posted, but miraculously the pools got changed and POW! all of a sudden they had that golden road to Sunday. I take nothing away from those kids because they are great atheletes and play really good ball.
On another note, I look forward to seeing 643DP and a couple of teams that do not get mentioned as they have made some solid additions to some already good ball teams.
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Originally posted by baseballnutz
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Originally posted by southpawdad
baseballnutz -- how do you explain the spring state championships?? Looks like 3 teams from the same pool ended up in the final four of the gold bracket. Could there have been a tougher pool?
I believe the other two teams where Shaw Park and Wills Park and up until that point no one saw that run coming.
I'll soften my response since my last was deleted - I'm a numbers guy, look at last years Spring Frost, March Mayhem, Back to School Brawl and now this year Spring Frost. One team plays the bottom half of the teams available while the other favorites battle each other in pool play. One team has a 6pm weeknight game every tournament and an early Sat morning or early afternoon game every tournament.
Look at my 1st post 2nd prediction on this thread from 1/28 - I saw this coming, I should have come on here after the field was set, I could've picked who and when one team played - after awhile it's not a coincedence.
Tony - when teams and families put down all most $500.00 to play a tournament they want to feel like they are getting a fair shake. I talk to many coaches that play your tournaments from our Dizzy Dean days and I am not the only one seeing this and I'm sure this will impact your turnout if it hasn't already.
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excoach12
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 14:21:02
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Only one way to make it fair for everybody;put all names into a hat and a blind draw. 1st name out is in pool A, 2nd is in pool B, 3rd is in pool C,4th in Pool D, 5th in pool A, 6th in pool B, etc till done.
I know that means you have the possibility of the 4 or 5 strongest teams all beating eachother up in pool play and the weaker teams making the top brackets but too bad. Its the only way to prevent favoritism and make it a level playing field.
Letting the TD design the pools to give the top teams the best shot at making the finals works if you are trying to have your game televised on ESPN to generate media revenue, but a simple tournament during a season of hundreds of tournaments should give every team a chance with "the luck of the draw". |
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LongGoneSoon
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 17:31:47
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Baseballnutz is dead on. Preferential treatment was repeatedly given to one or two teams in this age group last year in TC events and it is continuing into 2011. Look at the field. 7 major teams. 6 of these teams play other major teams- in fact 3 of the 6 not only play one major team in pool play but TWO major teams (North Cobb, Mill Creek and West Forsyth). Look at the 7th major team-they dont have to play a major team at all in pool play. Hmmm. Sets up nicely for top seed and saving pitching. Top seed means you get a bye and/or play a bottom seed team first round. This was not due to scheduling conflicts.
@ sward- Yes, these Major teams can definitely get good competition in TC events...none of these teams are running from competition...otherwise they wouldnt sign up. However, pool play should be fair and balanced and that is what teams want to see...not the same team getting easier draws every time. If this type of pooling continues...i predict some...if not many of the better teams start to look elsewhere for tournaments. |
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Steel-Will
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 21:30:27
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BBNutz: I think your concerns are legit. If there is a pattern of a particular team getting what could be a more favorable schedule it should be pointed out with facts as you have enumerated.
Nevertheless, when all is said and done, I think this could be an excellent teaching point for our young athletes. Bottom line is if you're a competitor and are playing to win, you'll have to have an "adapt, adjust, overcome, and get it done" attitude. No matter if it's the schedule, the weather, a game at 1:30am, or the suspect umps, just get it done!!!
And when you do get it done, it makes it all the sweeter.
Would it be good if it were all fair and even...sure. But life is not like that, travel baseball in the ATL surely is not like that and probably never will be. |
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