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Thedudesdad
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 Posted - 03/01/2012 : 10:48:53
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Well since we are in March and only about 2 weeks away I figured we can get the talk started early.
What are the fields like? Sizes, condition, etc..
I lived in Alpharetta for a year about 10 years ago but don't remember what weather is like in mid-march, so if someone can give a general idea.
Then of course we can talk about teams. I saw they went back up to 36 teams & MVP in it now after lake city. |
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suwaneedad11
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Posted - 03/04/2012 : 21:03:34
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| Outside of the Astros who are some of the teams in this that will be there in the end? |
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itsbaseballtime
348 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2012 : 22:09:19
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| M.V.P and the Bullets will be tough from Fla. There are many good teams from GA that can get it done. If the weather is good it should be a great weekend of baseball.... |
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Cleats High
27 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 00:08:22
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| Should be an interesting battle between the pro style of FL (120 games a year, year round program, huge rosters) vs. the more seasonal style of ball here in GA. |
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Thedudesdad
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 09:34:34
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| come on now. you are generalizing all of fl by 1 team, i can tell you very few teams play that much and nobody else has an actice roster that size |
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Calif_Baseball
292 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 11:20:35
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| EXCUSES before the Fact. Just because a team plays more doesnt mean they are better than everybody else. Better Talent beats Lower Talent. |
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Thedudesdad
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 12:09:23
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| CB- I took it same way & had same response but decided to be more pc...thnx for speaking up! |
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doubleday
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 13:42:31
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| I dont think it is excuses. CB, aren't you on the board quite often stating how you ar eplaying here or there? Here in Georgia, this time of year it is often cold or wet which inhibits the playing of games. If the NIT were in May, I would agree that 30 games vs 70, 80, or even 120 games would be insignificant. However we are talking about the middle of March. In similiar fashion, if you brought your team from California here in later July or August, we would have a significant advantage due to the heat and humidity. The weather (thus the lack of games) certainly plays a part in the NIt and the Florida teams advantage. |
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Cleats High
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 14:47:30
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| Sorry, I'll clarify: I was thinking of the Team Miami's and Team MVP's and other S. FL teams and some of the Tampa teams that have large rosters, aggressive recruiting practices, lineups where kids don't play other than to pitch, etc. (which I believe is a bit of a contrast to the way things are done by the top majors in Atlanta), and they are in mid season form all the time (that's a compliment) VS GA teams where football is king in the Fall, winters are tougher, and teams are now just starting to gel. I think the Atlanta-area has the among the best 11u baseball in the country overall so I'm genuinely excited to see MVP and Bullets vs the best teams from Atlanta/GA. Everything isn't always on an agenda guys. Their way vs. our way isn't evil vs. good, just different. |
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Thedudesdad
86 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 15:21:01
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The Astros have been able to play 3 tournaments since the start of the new year and a good amount of teams registered have played in 2. We have played in 3 so far also after giving our players 6 weeks off between fall & spring season. So there is not a big difference of recent tournaments at all.
East Cobb gets so much respect not just of talent but they play games and win or loss take it for what it was a game between 2 teams anything outside of that doesn't come into play with them. Field size, weather,games played,etc.. Doesn't matter. Just both teams on the field at that time.
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Thedudesdad
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 15:30:26
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| Cleats- Miami has 13 players on roster, titans 10, bullets 11, salty dawgs 12 & these are some of the best in the state. so do not include them in large roster, recruiting other players or only pitchers. There is only a small number of Florida teams that do what you say, defiantly not the majority. |
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coach0512
123 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 17:05:16
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| Looks like evryones getting in a snit on this thread.................. |
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baseballRus
126 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 17:32:56
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| It has to be a factor. To deny a team playing its 5th or 6th game of the year is not at a disadvantage versus a team playing its 25th or 30th is crazy. How about pitch counts? I would hope a pitcher early in the season is on a lower pitch count than one that's been pitching for a couple of months. The number of "at bats" is also a factor. |
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Cleats High
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 17:35:22
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Fair enough. And I wasn't even saying it was bad, just different. To me it's the year round, one-sport argument vs. having kids play multiple sports with a clear break between seasons. It's pseudo professional sports 'franchises' at a young age vs. traditional youth sports. For what Miami and others do, I don't have any problem with it. Their programs are top notch, give kids a great chance to play top level high school and college ball, and from what I can tell they do it with class.
I'll keep the rumors to myself from now on; all I should have said is that I'm excited to see some of the best teams from FL play the best from GA. Some of the best teams in the country battling, I love it. |
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Calif_Baseball
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 18:48:48
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Originally posted by doubleday
I dont think it is excuses. CB, aren't you on the board quite often stating how you ar eplaying here or there? Here in Georgia, this time of year it is often cold or wet which inhibits the playing of games. If the NIT were in May, I would agree that 30 games vs 70, 80, or even 120 games would be insignificant. However we are talking about the middle of March. In similiar fashion, if you brought your team from California here in later July or August, we would have a significant advantage due to the heat and humidity. The weather (thus the lack of games) certainly plays a part in the NIt and the Florida teams advantage.
I understand what you are saying about just starting up with a few games under your belt vs 60 games. My point is this, If you have better talent you will beat teams that play more than you.
Oh by the way Our team will be coming to Hell...I mean Georgia in July. But you will never here me say the weather drained our kids if the don't do well. I do believe the Southern teams will have an advantage because of the weather in this tournament. Unlike the Elites where you play a game or two a day. TBS you could play up to 4 in a day. |
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upnorth
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 20:52:21
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MI teams hear the same thing about GA teams. I'm sure the FL teams are constantly talking about the teams on the equator.I can't wait to see the kids play in your snit.It's getting old playing ball in the snow .quote:
Originally posted by doubleday
I dont think it is excuses. CB, aren't you on the board quite often stating how you ar eplaying here or there? Here in Georgia, this time of year it is often cold or wet which inhibits the playing of games. If the NIT were in May, I would agree that 30 games vs 70, 80, or even 120 games would be insignificant. However we are talking about the middle of March. In similiar fashion, if you brought your team from California here in later July or August, we would have a significant advantage due to the heat and humidity. The weather (thus the lack of games) certainly plays a part in the NIt and the Florida teams advantage.
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baseballnutz
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 22:51:33
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Originally posted by Calif_Baseball
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Originally posted by doubleday
I dont think it is excuses. CB, aren't you on the board quite often stating how you ar eplaying here or there? Here in Georgia, this time of year it is often cold or wet which inhibits the playing of games. If the NIT were in May, I would agree that 30 games vs 70, 80, or even 120 games would be insignificant. However we are talking about the middle of March. In similiar fashion, if you brought your team from California here in later July or August, we would have a significant advantage due to the heat and humidity. The weather (thus the lack of games) certainly plays a part in the NIt and the Florida teams advantage.
I understand what you are saying about just starting up with a few games under your belt vs 60 games. My point is this, If you have better talent you will beat teams that play more than you.
Oh by the way Our team will be coming to Hell...I mean Georgia in July. But you will never here me say the weather drained our kids if the don't do well. I do believe the Southern teams will have an advantage because of the weather in this tournament. Unlike the Elites where you play a game or two a day. TBS you could play up to 4 in a day.
Cali - I disagree with you about this point early in the season. Teams with a lot more talent will lose to teams that have played 50+ games when thier season is just starting. You even made this point when the Astros traveled to FL a couple of weeks ago, and I agree.
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Calif_Baseball
292 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 00:56:29
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Nutz I agree. I guess it didn't come across that way in my written words. Most teams have been practicing for over a month, Weather permiting. They should have been hitting indoors along with pitching for the same amount of time. I am sure a few have had a couple of scrimmages and played in at least one or two tourneys to this point. Some teams haven't put in the work like other have. But if you have a talented group of players they will find a way to compete and win. Maybe they don't mercy teams they should or win handidly and some games are closer than they should be against lesser oppontents. Now if your talking about the TOP teams that has played 60+ games vs teams with only a few games. Then you are correct because even at mid season form it would be hard to win those type games. A good example of what I mean is the Astros vs Team Combat. Team Combat had played over 50 games and the Astros Beat them, Same goes with games vs SF Stealth and Sarasota Salty Dawgs. Both played 60+ games prior to their meeting with the Astros. I think it really boils down to Consistency of play by a team that has played 60 games vs a team that has not. Remember it was the Astros first game of any kind together when they went to Sarasota and they beat teams that had played a lot of games.
My Nomads took some time off after the Elites in mid July. We didn't start back up again until Beginning of Sept(almost 2 months)to get ready for the Fall Nationals in Las Vegas 2 weeks later in mid Sept. Most of the Top teams there had been playing all the way up to the Tournament. We were not at peak peformance but still found a way to win and there were a lot of top teams there. |
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spliter
121 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 09:48:10
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| Cali your up too early. Go back to bed. Enjoy yalls post and agree. We dont have what you call talent loaded. But what we have is speed and defense. Speed is what you cant coach and is a equalizer in some cases. So our outfield is ready. We have some pitchers and hitters that can compete at any level. Most practiced all winter. Few played football and basketball. We hope we get to play a Fla. team. Just to see and have fun. We pray we will be hitting on all cylinders. Aint skeered. Our kids have talent and great never quit attitudes. Yes we will get better but we can compete now. No expectations just want to knock off some Majors. You only get better playing better talent. Its baseball, have fun play your best and forget the rest. One must be realistic there can only one winner. It will take a boat load of talent, a good bracket draw, and luck to win the snit. |
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Going-Going-Gone
62 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 17:08:32
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Here are my picks for each division:
Major - EC Astros
AAA - Coal Mountain Storm
AA - West Cobb Silverhawks |
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Calif_Baseball
292 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2012 : 10:42:07
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Spliter I don't sleep. I am a Machine, Sleep is Overated. LOL
I think 4 teams have a shot at winning the Atlanta SNIT. ASTROS,M.V.P.,Evo Canes(NC) and Bullet Gold. The winner will come from that group. IMO. There will be some surprises during this tournament. The problem with a large field like this is a few teams will be able to save pitching because they won't play anybody in pool or early bracket. I much rather have Quality over Quantity any day.
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upnorth
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Posted - 03/08/2012 : 21:18:48
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I have a question . What percentage of the teams have no chance of finishing in the top 5?I think there are only five teams classified as major teams in MI.Just wondering if there is a different standard you guys go by to classify yourselves as major.I can't wait to see your teams down there play. Hopefully it doesn't rain too much.It's like a 12 our drive .I checked usssa website 20 times today for the brackets.I'm sure somebody will be happy to play us.Just as long as we don't get stuck playing the other MI team.quote:
Originally posted by suwaneedad11
Outside of the Astros who are some of the teams in this that will be there in the end?
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2012 : 08:17:32
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| Safe drive upnorth, brackets will be out Friday morning. |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2012 : 09:00:27
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Originally posted by baseballnutz
Safe drive upnorth, brackets will be out Friday morning.
upnorth, the pool schedule will be out at 8pm tonight. |
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Bigwhitevan
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 09:10:58
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| Upnorth, I know that drive. Be safe. As far as percentage I think you can look to last year rosters. This year USSSA moved several AAA up to fill out majors. So some of these teams, no offense to anyone, are truly AAA playing up because the powers that be wanted more than just a million teams in AA and hardly any in rest of classes. It definately fills major AND AAA tournaments better so far this year. IMO. Look for same group of teams to play on Sunday as played in gold bracket in Triple Crown Spring Frost. Regardless, it is always a great atmosphere at all the parks and lots of competitive play. Hope you enjoy the GA way. |
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SavannahBulldog
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Posted - 03/09/2012 : 10:06:30
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We have no talent and we'll be lucky to win a game. We are just a lowly AAA team from South GA. Slow, undisciplined, and poorly coached. Nothing to worry about if you get us in pool play. Woe is us....
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