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And1

66 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  10:28:01  Show Profile
Looks like the Florida teams keep dropping out of this tournament. What's sad is this event, held in Florida last year, was such a breath of fresh air last year. The format and the state pride was a lot of fun. We had state teams rooting for fellow state teams and a great level of competition. The event gets moved to Georgia this year and suddenly the Florida teams drop out left and right. Sure they came for the snit but c'mon. The Astros have already made 2 trips to south Florida in a month. Savannah goes to snit in n. Fl. The sting went in the fall to disney. We hold a 20 team tournament to identify our state participants and had a fierce competition to decide the final four. We in Georgia are proud to represent our state and while we play hard against each other week in and week out, we also support our state together. It is overwhelmingly disappointing to be 2 weeks away from this event and have only 2 fl teams showing while the same 4 Georgia teams that qualified are ready to fulfill their commitment. The lack of respect for the TD and for our teams shown by so many Florida teams dropping out is ridiculous. Maybe Alabama or Tennessee or Texas or North Carolina would like to do this next year. Remember it's about the kids and the experience Florida. Shame on any of you that said your not coming because of lack of competition. And you know who you are. Problem with that is Savannah, OTC, and JCS have a lot of games under their belt now just like te Astros and you would have been given everything you wanted.

Congrats to the Georgia teams for staying on and showing respect sportsmanship and competitive play!!

Edited by - And1 on 04/05/2012 10:51:35

in_the_know

985 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  13:25:53  Show Profile
That's why these things always tend to die. Will be interesting to see what happens to the TCS National event NEXT year when it moves out west. I know all the Cali teams are excited and coming to ECB this summer, but how many teams from GA/FL/Carolina's/TN/etc will REALLY travel out west next year?
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Thedudesdad

86 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  13:27:04  Show Profile
I do not know why teams keep dropping out, by the time we noticed teams withdrawing we talked about going but with the snit we are going to the weekend before& the rest of the travel we have already done & planning on still it was just too much to ask of the parents on short notice.. I am not sure why we were not one of the original teams invited from Florida but you can guarantee we would of been there and taken pride in representing our state no matter who was coming from ga. I am sorry you guys have to deal with this.

I do think part of the issue is that the way teams are chosen/qualify are different for each state. I think for it to work both states would have to do it the same. Makes no sense for Florida to choose top teams and in ga anyone can attempt to earn a berth. Not saying either is right or wrong.

Edited by - Thedudesdad on 04/05/2012 14:26:08
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excoach12

159 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  13:34:38  Show Profile
At the beginning of the spring season the Florida teams may have the edge because they play right through the winter months where Georgia teams take a break and play other sports in the fall and winter.
But now that the Georgia teams have several tourneys under their belt this spring and they have shaken the rust off the Florida teams run and hide. What did you expect?
Congrats to the Georgia teams, you have already won without even showing up.
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HeadFirst

203 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  14:11:19  Show Profile
And 1,
I agree completely! I think for many of the FLA teams they may not actually consider FLA home! We have been working hard and will do our best to play whoever decides to show up!

Edited by - HeadFirst on 04/05/2012 14:26:08
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Thedudesdad

86 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  14:36:18  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by excoach12

At the beginning of the spring season the Florida teams may have the edge because they play right through the winter months where Georgia teams take a break and play other sports in the fall and winter.
But now that the Georgia teams have several tourneys under their belt this spring and they have shaken the rust off the Florida teams run and hide. What did you expect?
Congrats to the Georgia teams, you have already won without even showing up.



This response is comical since 2 of the teams that have pulled out are team Miami & MVP. Anybody with any knowledge knows that neither team has ever run from competition. I am not saying I agree with them pulling out but let's stay in reality while you are thumping your chest.
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HeadFirst

203 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  14:50:48  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Thedudesdad

quote:
Originally posted by excoach12

At the beginning of the spring season the Florida teams may have the edge because they play right through the winter months where Georgia teams take a break and play other sports in the fall and winter.
But now that the Georgia teams have several tourneys under their belt this spring and they have shaken the rust off the Florida teams run and hide. What did you expect?
Congrats to the Georgia teams, you have already won without even showing up.



This response is comical since 2 of the teams that have pulled out are team Miami & MVP. Anybody with any knowledge knows that neither team has ever run from competition. I am not saying I agree with them pulling out but let's stay in reality while you are thumping your chest.



I think MVP is playing in their own age group that weekend!
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neverquit

128 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  17:17:44  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Thedudesdad

[quote]Originally posted by excoach12

At the beginning of the spring season the Florida teams may have the edge because they play right through the winter months where Georgia teams take a break and play other sports in the fall and winter.
But now that the Georgia teams have several tourneys under their belt this spring and they have shaken the rust off the Florida teams run and hide. What did you expect?
Congrats to the Georgia teams, you have already won without even showing up.

This response is comical since 2 of the teams that have pulled out are team Miami & MVP. Anybody with any knowledge knows that neither team has ever run from competition. I am not saying I agree with them pulling out but let's stay in reality while you are thumping your chest.


With the 30 plus Major teams remaining in Fla. is shouldnt be difficult to find replacements. If school were out the situation maybe different. It's about a 15 hr round trip for Miami. I dont think that the kids would be that alert in school come Monday being that they would not get home until Mon. morning. And for what 11u? Things in Travel BB are out of control. Some tourneys should be held when school is out. Running from competition comical...not a chance. As far as lack of competition...maybe but knowing the competition in Ga. you should not have even entered. I'm sure the Fla. replacements will be more than competitive.
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And1

66 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2012 :  18:01:55  Show Profile
Dudes dad....No way most of us think anyone is running from competition. I can assure you we know that's not the case. The real injustice is that they felt we weren't enough competition for them to head to Valdosta. That especially sits in our craw because 4 of us made the trip to lake city last year and when we host they pull out for lack of competition reasons I guess. If I'm wrong so be it but that's what one of them said last week. That's a shame. And I know for a fact the bullets would have honored their commitment and had a blast I can assure you. Anyway whatever the reason is it blows for the ga teams that would have really gotten to see some great ball, great atmosphere, and great spirit. I again applaud the Georgia teams for really thinking this was a big deal and entering a 20 team tournament to punch our tickets. Oh well. See ya soon and good luck at snit this weekend!
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Thedudesdad

86 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2012 :  06:26:00  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by And1

Dudes dad....No way most of us think anyone is running from competition. I can assure you we know that's not the case. The real injustice is that they felt we weren't enough competition for them to head to Valdosta. That especially sits in our craw because 4 of us made the trip to lake city last year and when we host they pull out for lack of competition reasons I guess. If I'm wrong so be it but that's what one of them said last week. That's a shame. And I know for a fact the bullets would have honored their commitment and had a blast I can assure you. Anyway whatever the reason is it blows for the ga teams that would have really gotten to see some great ball, great atmosphere, and great spirit. I again applaud the Georgia teams for really thinking this was a big deal and entering a 20 team tournament to punch our tickets. Oh well. See ya soon and good luck at snit this weekend!



I do feel for you guys on the situation. I do think if Florida had a tournament to see who qualified that there would not be this problem as that could be a team goal at start of year as it seems like it was for some of the Ga teams, to qualify and play. I do not even know how many Florida teams even knew about it until some of the other teams pulled out and they got invited. Hopefully they keep this going and make some tweaks to it so both state are the same way because the premise and the format are top notch IMO.

I am sure they will get 2 other good teams to go and still make it a great weekend of ball for everyone. Thanks for the well wishes and we wish you guys well also.
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neverquit

128 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2012 :  08:38:54  Show Profile
They will come to TBS @ ECB but may not stay for CABA. CABA will have competition. I remember how close 643 came to beating MVP @ the SNIT.
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suwaneedad11

84 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2012 :  09:19:38  Show Profile
They should reach out to the tournament director on this and invite some of the other GA teams that played in the Georgia Qualifier!
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itsbaseballtime

348 Posts

Posted - 04/07/2012 :  21:00:21  Show Profile
Then it would not be GA/Fla tournament. We have had a few GA only tourneys so far...
quote:
Originally posted by suwaneedad11

They should reach out to the tournament director on this and invite some of the other GA teams that played in the Georgia Qualifier!

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itsbaseballtime

348 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2012 :  00:18:00  Show Profile
Astros are out.... This was suppose to be the Best from Ga vs the Best from Fla.

Edited by - itsbaseballtime on 04/14/2012 08:02:04
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HeadFirst

203 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2012 :  08:46:34  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by itsbaseballtime

Astros are out.... This was suppose to be the Best from Ga vs the Best from Fla.



itsbaseballtime,
I don't agree with that decision! That is acting in the same manner as the FLA teams who pulled out! Regardless of who FLA is able to send to represent their state. We should still be willing to represent our state!
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itsbaseballtime

348 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2012 :  10:43:10  Show Profile
HF, Thanks for your input....
quote:
Originally posted by HeadFirst

quote:
Originally posted by itsbaseballtime

Astros are out.... This was suppose to be the Best from Ga vs the Best from Fla.



itsbaseballtime,
I don't agree with that decision! That is acting in the same manner as the FLA teams who pulled out! Regardless of who FLA is able to send to represent their state. We should still be willing to represent our state!

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Calif_Baseball

292 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2012 :  11:40:16  Show Profile
I agree with it. Why play in a tournament that was set up to be a GA vs FL challenge. Then they change the format and put in teams that are not considered "Top" teams from Fla and replace them with GA teams?? That is not what the tournament was set up to be. I think the TD from USSSA in Fla should compensate the teams from GA that Qualified in good faith to win their bid to play.
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HeadFirst

203 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2012 :  13:41:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by And1

Then I'll make this easy on you headfirst. Extenuating circumstances that have befallen our team, internally with the health issues of 2 of our players, and an external issue that is none of your business or the business of others, forced us to make this decision. We have had 2 players hospitalized in the past 3 weeks and are not suppose to travel for the time being. Elite gamers will do a great job in our place. This decision was difficult but necessary. Good luck.



And1,
Sorry to hear about the boys in the hospital! I will pray for them! I was hoping to have you guys there! I even bought a camo ECB shirt to wear.
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HeadFirst

203 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2012 :  13:47:51  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Calif_Baseball

I agree with it. Why play in a tournament that was set up to be a GA vs FL challenge. Then they change the format and put in teams that are not considered "Top" teams from Fla and replace them with GA teams?? That is not what the tournament was set up to be. I think the TD from USSSA in Fla should compensate the teams from GA that Qualified in good faith to win their bid to play.



CB,
Its still 4 from GA and 4 from FLA, just not the 4 teams from FLA everyone had thought and now its not the 4 from GA who qualified!
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throwitaround

36 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2012 :  00:05:53  Show Profile
And1

Itsbaseballtime comments would have led anyone to think you were out because of the lack of competition. Eludes to nothing about injuries. If you don't want people to know your business then dont post. Sorry to hear you have a few kids out. Speedy recovery to them.
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throwitaround

36 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2012 :  23:23:38  Show Profile
All I was pointing out was itsbaseballtime said nothing about sickness. Nobody wants to see anyone's kids sick or injured and unable to play. As far as posting, have at it but be receptive to when others have questions or a differing opinion other than one you have.
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ecb11

31 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2012 :  06:00:11  Show Profile
It seems some post on here only when there are excuses to be made....
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HeadFirst

203 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2012 :  09:12:42  Show Profile
I was not "Astros Bashing". I hate that kids are still fighting sickness, especially the one I know about! He is a super nice kid and I hope everything is o.k.! As far as internal issues, they are a part of travel ball and everyone has some at some point. I just wanted the best to be representing GA, regardless of who Florida decided to send! Our team will go and do our best! I am sure we will see some better pitching now that the Astros are not going! As far as the Astros and any sickness / internal issues, they sure took care of business this weekend at Triple Crown BSB! Great job and congratulations!
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SavannahBulldog

50 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2012 :  10:56:18  Show Profile
It's just another tournament with equally matched teams from GA and FL....more so now than before. Astros would have been the clear favorites, and we hate to hear about the team issues. Hope they get things figured out. I am wondering why the Black Sox were not invited since it is in their back yard? I guess the TD wanted a team that actually attempted to qualify. Looking forward to it, and some payback for the beating the CBC Riverhawks gave us this past weekend.

Edited by - SavannahBulldog on 04/16/2012 10:57:13
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CobbYBB

56 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2012 :  09:17:18  Show Profile
I try not to post much here because at the end of the day everyone's got their own opinions, and why does it really matter if we disagree on some things. I just wanted to say to Coach Lobus that I dont think you need to justify your decision to anyone. You are obviously doing a great job and making the best decisions for your team. Some of the sentiment here is more dissappointment from a fan's perspective - just like how we all want to see our college team in the BCS Championship. I think all here are excited for the team you have put together and this has translated into "Georgia pride." I assimilate commenting on this forum to how I scream at the TV during a Falcons game. At the end of the day just know you have built up quite a fan base, and with that comes many Monday morning quarterbacks.
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And1

66 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2012 :  10:36:19  Show Profile
Thank you for putting it in perspective. I/we appreciate your comments very much. Brig defensive has become too much of a habit! Just know we are more disappointed than everyone combined!!! We have traveled so much already and this is the on we did not want to miss. Thanks again Cobb and get ready to scream at the falcons again this year I fear!!!

Edited by - And1 on 04/17/2012 10:40:55
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