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PATbb
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 Posted - 05/29/2012 : 23:08:06
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Ok, Some one please explain why all the pools play within their pools, except for the F and G pools that play a cross pool schedule? The A pool makes little sense in terms of competitiveness Vs the other pools top teams........ The EC Titans get the worst draw playing the Rays and the Longhorns, Maybe Tony can explain his thought process???? Looks like a rematch for the A-Titans and Spartans from last week's USSSA BOS pools...
A1 Barrett Baseball Cumming
A2 Midway Mavericks Cumming
A3 East Cobb Pride Marietta
B1 Milton Nationals Milton
B2 East Cobb Braves Marietta
B3 East Cobb Warriors Marietta
C1 RBA Titans Dacula
C2 NYO Titans Smyrna
C3 East Cobb Black Knights Marietta
D1 Alpharetta Titans Alpharetta
D2 East Cobb Diamondbacks Marietta
D3 East Cobb Spartans Marietta
E1 Hobgood Thrashers Canton
E2 Elite Gamers McDonough
E3 Team ECB Select Marietta
F1 East Cobb Titans Marietta
F2 Columbia County Bulldogs Grovetown
F3 Middle Georgia Moccasins Lizella
G1 East Cobb Rays Marietta
G2 Sports-A-Rama Spartans Marietta
G3 East Cobb Longhorns Marietta |
Edited by - PATbb on 05/29/2012 23:08:56 |
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ecbpappi
244 Posts |
Posted - 05/29/2012 : 23:57:14
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Here is the actual schedule, looks like it'll be a late night Sunday.
GAME DAY TIME FIELD TEAM SCORE VS SCORE TEAM
1 FRIDAY 9:00 AM FOWLER PARK #1 Barrett Baseball A1 A2 Midway Mavericks
2 FRIDAY 10:00 AM FOWLER PARK #2 Milton Nationals B1 B2 East Cobb Braves
3 FRIDAY 10:00 AM FOWLER PARK #3 RBA Titans C1 C2 NYO Titans
4 FRIDAY 10:00 AM FOWLER PARK #4 Alpharetta Titans D1 D2 East Cobb Diamondbacks
5 FRIDAY 11:00 AM FOWLER PARK #1 Barrett Baseball A1 A3 East Cobb Pride
6 FRIDAY 12:00 PM FOWLER PARK #2 Milton Nationals B1 B3 East Cobb Warriors
7 FRIDAY 12:00 PM FOWLER PARK #3 RBA Titans C1 C3 East Cobb Black Knights
8 FRIDAY 12:00 PM FOWLER PARK #4 Alpharetta Titans D1 D3 East Cobb Spartans
9 FRIDAY 1:00 PM FOWLER PARK #1 Midway Mavericks A2 A3 East Cobb Pride
10 FRIDAY 2:00 PM FOWLER PARK #2 East Cobb Braves B2 B3 East Cobb Warriors
11 FRIDAY 2:00 PM FOWLER PARK #3 NYO Titans C2 C3 East Cobb Black Knights
12 FRIDAY 2:00 PM FOWLER PARK #4 East Cobb Diamondbacks D2 D3 East Cobb Spartans
13 FRIDAY 3:00 PM FOWLER PARK #1 Hobgood Thrashers E1 E2 Elite Gamers
14 FRIDAY 4:00 PM FOWLER PARK #2 East Cobb Titans F1 G1 East Cobb Rays
15 FRIDAY 4:00 PM FOWLER PARK #3 Columbia County Bulldogs F2 G2 Sports-A-Rama Spartans
16 FRIDAY 4:00 PM FOWLER PARK #4 Middle Georgia Moccasins F3 G3 East Cobb Longhorns
17 FRIDAY 5:00 PM FOWLER PARK #1 Hobgood Thrashers E1 E3 Team ECB Select
18 FRIDAY 6:00 PM FOWLER PARK #2 East Cobb Titans F1 G3 East Cobb Longhorns
19 FRIDAY 6:00 PM FOWLER PARK #3 Columbia County Bulldogs F2 G1 East Cobb Rays
20 FRIDAY 6:00 PM FOWLER PARK #4 Middle Georgia Moccasins F3 G2 Sports-A-Rama Spartans
21 FRIDAY 7:00 PM FOWLER PARK #1 Elite Gamers E2 E3 Team ECB Select
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ccdawg15
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Posted - 05/30/2012 : 08:32:08
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| PATbb, I had the same qeustion when I saw the schedules come out. The only reason I could possibly come up with is maybe a couple of those teams had certain game time requests that needed to be met. Even then though seems like those teams could have been pooled together and played within their pool. Hopefully the TD will chime in soon!! |
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yankeedad
133 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2012 : 13:09:07
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| I'm sure there is a logical reason behind the deviation however the only out of town team in these 2 pools is the Moccs. |
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maryland
96 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2012 : 15:09:56
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TripleCrownAdministrator
240 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2012 : 15:48:53
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Here is the reasoning on why the last two pools had to cross pool for pool play. It came down to time slots left for Friday night without getting out of there too late with 8 pm starts. Please keep in mind that we start double elimination first thing on Saturday morning.
Without starting at 8 am in the morning.
Here are the time slots and there are only 4 fields there at Fowler.
10 am
12 pm
2 pm
4 pm
6 pm
Pools A, B, C, D took up the first three time slots with their 3 games within pool. That only left the 4 pm and 6 pm left. So we had to cross pool and then move all of the teams in between games. We could not play another 3 games within pool without 8pm starts. The teams that ended up in those last two pools requested to play late on Friday. That is why you have East Cobb playing each other because there was no other place to put these teams and their requests. Another note, pool play in this one really does not mean a hill of beans. You better make sure to not lose the first or second game in bracket play in the double elimination playoffs. It is real tough to come all the way through the losers bracket, but I have seen mighty teams do it in the last few years.
I hope that I gave you some insight into what I deal with on killer Tuesday nights. To Mike Kirksey, Chris Ottinger, and others out there that have run tournaments, I commend you guys for putting on quality events. The work you put in sometimes is not appreciated and there will always be critics. I appreciate the entire 12u age group and it has been one awesome competitive season.
Thank you again and look forward to a crazy weekend of baseball.
Tony VonDolteren
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PATbb
58 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2012 : 16:59:51
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| Tony, Thanks for the reply, you must have been real good at those Algebra story problems in high school...... |
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gatorboy1
56 Posts |
Posted - 05/30/2012 : 19:21:27
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| ok so we got the schedule mystery answered, who wins this one? Braves have had a few losses recently but are always the team to beat. I am gonna go with RBA Titans, Braves, NYO and alpharetta titans in the semi finals. |
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doubleplay11
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Posted - 05/31/2012 : 09:56:53
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| PATbb you are right. Too bad for the ECB Titans. They will be a low seed before things even get started. Glad the scheduling was explained because pool G is the toughest. All of the pools seem to have a clear winner except G. |
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yankeedad
133 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2012 : 11:01:04
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| @doubleplay11...who are your pool winners? |
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Just-in
13 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2012 : 11:52:20
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| Clearly the Braves are still top dog; one loss to a top 5 team does not diminish what they have as far as talent and coaching. What I am more intrigue to see is how much if any the switch back to non-wood bats affects the games. You had several teams that really adapted well to using wood, in fact some were putting up 9-10 runs per game against solid pitching and solid defense. What do you all think advantage or disadvantage |
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yankeedad
133 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2012 : 12:36:01
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I hear the RBA Titans made significant adds to their summer roster which aided in their success this past weekend. Not judging per se but certainly worth mentioning.
Has the Braves roster stayed the same?
Has anyone else made significant changes?
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Originally posted by Just-in
Clearly the Braves are still top dog; one loss to a top 5 team does not diminish what they have as far as talent and coaching. What I am more intrigue to see is how much if any the switch back to non-wood bats affects the games. You had several teams that really adapted well to using wood, in fact some were putting up 9-10 runs per game against solid pitching and solid defense. What do you all think advantage or disadvantage
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2012 : 13:52:33
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Originally posted by Just-in
Clearly the Braves are still top dog; one loss to a top 5 team does not diminish what they have as far as talent and coaching.
I agree that they are the top dog but out of the last 3 losses, only one would be a top 5 team. Now, woodbat stuff is alway harder to predict but the transition back will be very easy and in fact might make them better hitters because you need to learn to hit with the good part of a wood bat.
Onto another topic, recently heard that coach k of the braves is staying down to coach at the 12U level again next year? Say it isn't so coach, you guys have been the top dogs for so many years, travel ball next yr won't be the same. Who will we target to beat then?  |
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moccs
349 Posts |
Posted - 05/31/2012 : 16:06:20
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| Not that pool play matters but East Cobb Longhorns and East Cobb Rays can both go 2-0 . Seeds are not determined by where you place in your pool but your win loss record - differential etc as compared to the other teams in the tournament. I agree that it is a tough draw for Titans but the best team in tournament is not always the top seed after pool play. Therefore the first game on Saturday could be easier then the two in pool play. The double elimination format this weekend will make it interesting > The only concern that I have is that with rain likely for Friday will they reduce the tourney to a single elimination or play only one pool game then seed. This will make seeding a lot more important and definitely change the strategy for this coach !! For me I am praying for good weather !! |
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yankeedad
133 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 13:01:18
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Looks like we have our first upset:
RBA Titans - 3
NYO Titans - 16 |
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diamond_duel
8 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 17:51:08
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Upset No. 2
Elite Gamers 10
EC Braves 2
Give credit to the winning teams. They both showed up to play today. |
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mbdale
28 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 18:34:11
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| Don't read too much into the win over the RBA Titans. Looks like RBA had a totally different group of kids playing today - much different than last week when they beat the ECB Braves. |
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rakin
32 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 20:13:22
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| Quite a few upsets! However, this format and pitching limitations lends itself to some upsets in pool play. It is going to be fun to see how Saturday and Sunday play out. |
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BravesFan
533 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 22:12:28
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| Looks like the Rays came out and are playing their "A" game, NYO has been impressive to but let's see what they have tomorrow vs some better teams. |
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mbdale
28 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2012 : 22:44:12
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| Braves are set to make a run. If RBA can get past the Gamers, the Braves had some payback in mind for them. They are still the team to beat. |
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bonds1125
60 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2012 : 00:49:46
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| The NYO Titans are no doubt the team to beat. Take your travel ball dollars and long season of drama and leave them at the door. NYO has none of these issues to worry about. They are legit and rested. NYO wins in the ship against who cares............ I'm out! |
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Baseballnut22
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Posted - 06/02/2012 : 01:46:26
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| Saw the NYO titans made some notice today, 16-3 over the titans from Duluth? I had a buddy at the park and from he says they are the real deal.. Rec all star team? Hmmmm interesting. ECB baseball.....oh and wear are the Mighty Astros?? |
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baseballnut33
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Posted - 06/02/2012 : 10:00:01
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| Sounds like NYO is tooting their own horn and has issued a challenge to everyone. |
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Glenn Newton
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Posted - 06/02/2012 : 19:16:03
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Originally posted by bonds1125
The NYO Titans are no doubt the team to beat. Take your travel ball dollars and long season of drama and leave them at the door. NYO has none of these issues to worry about. They are legit and rested. NYO wins in the ship against who cares............ I'm out!
negative, no tournament experience, they wont make it to the "ship" to play whoever. mark it down |
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yankeedad
133 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2012 : 23:23:36
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| I guess NYO is getting the match up they were asking for...let's see what they can do against the Bravos |
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11UFAN
149 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2012 : 23:45:34
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I love these double elimination tournaments. The teams with the deepest pitching will be the last ones standing. Even after a win or two in the winners bracket you still have 5 or more games left to play once your in the losers bracket to win the whole thing. That adds up to a whole lot of innings over a few days.
If you don't have 8 or 9 serviceable arms its gonna be an uphill battle.
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