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yankeedad

133 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  08:17:22  Show Profile
2 websites with 2 sets of teams listed...which is right?

http://www.usssa.com/sports/TournamentSeedingReport.asp?TournID=849401
Acworth Warriors Blue (GA)
Middle Georgia Moccasins (GA)
Oregon Park Sharks (GA)
East Cobb Warriors (GA)
Hopewell Hawks (GA)
East Cobb Diamondbacks (GA)
Sharon Springs Spartans Black (GA)
East Cobb Black Knights (GA)
Cannons Baseball (GA)
Tangi Starz
ECB Astros

http://www.ecbdiamondbacks.com/Javy_Lopez_Tournament.html
Oregon Park Sharks (GA)
East Cobb Diamondbacks (GA)
East Cobb Warriors (GA)
Sharon Springs Spartans Black (GA)
Cannons Baseball (GA)
Acworth Warriors Blue (GA)
East Cobb Black Knights (GA)
Kennesaw Generals (GA)
Gwinnett Yankees (GA)
East Cobb Astros 11u (GA)
Middle Georgia Moccasins (GA)
Hopewell Hawks (GA)
Carroll County Lions (GA)
East Cobb Rays (GA)
South Comets (GA)
ECB Dodgers 11u (GA)

ecbpappi

244 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  09:02:03  Show Profile
gotta go with the usssa site cause those are the teams that have paid, dback site is probably just teams that have shown interest or given verbal commitment that they'd play
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yankeedad

133 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  11:19:51  Show Profile
Makes sense...with that cleared up, who does everyone like?
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5220 Fans

112 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  12:05:37  Show Profile
I really, really like the Georgia team....
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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  12:22:23  Show Profile
rays are in along with a few other teams, look for carroll county and rays in ship

quote:
Originally posted by yankeedad

Makes sense...with that cleared up, who does everyone like?

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Glenn Newton

57 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  13:36:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BravesFan

rays are in along with a few other teams, look for carroll county and rays in ship

quote:
Originally posted by yankeedad

Makes sense...with that cleared up, who does everyone like?






Seriously, Rays in the ship? Never thought you'd say that
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moccs

349 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  15:05:25  Show Profile
Nothing like stating the obvious !! Rays probably want have a problem making it the ship ! The question is who will be their partner. Wood bat aspect could make it interesting-- There are 15 teams in the tourney now and they are probably holding out for one more before posting brackets. I wouldn't be surprised to see Carroll County , Ecobb Warriors , Ecobb Astros(11u) or Acworth in the finals. Weather looks good so it should be fun.
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yankeedad

133 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2012 :  15:22:18  Show Profile
Still updating teams on USSSA:
Carroll Co. Lions
Middle Georgia Moccasins
East Cobb Rays
Oregon Park Sharks
South Comets
East Cobb Warriors
East Cobb Diamondbacks
Sharon Springs Spartans Black
East Cobb Black Knights
Cannons Baseball
Acworth Warriors Blue
Tangi Starz
Hopewell Hawks
East Cobb Astros (11u)
East Cobb Dodgers (11u)
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yankeedad

133 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  14:15:57  Show Profile
Carroll County Lions (GA)
Acworth Warriors Blue (GA)
Middle Georgia Moccasins (GA)
East Cobb Rays (GA)
South Comets
ECB Dodgers
Oregon Park Sharks (GA)
East Cobb Warriors (GA)
Hopewell Hawks (GA)
East Cobb Diamondbacks (GA)
Sharon Springs Spartans Black (GA)
East Cobb Black Knights (GA)
Cannons Baseball (GA)
Gwinnett Yankees (GA)
Kennesaw Generals (GA)
Team Georgia-King (GA)

Pool A
Game# Time Field Match Up Score
7 Fri 6/22/2012 4:00 PM F4 [GA] Carroll Co. Lions VS. [GA] Gwinnett Yankees
9 Fri 6/22/2012 6:00 PM F4 [GA] middle georgia moccasins VS. [GA] Kennesaw Generals
11 Fri 6/22/2012 8:00 PM F4 [GA] Kennesaw Generals VS. [GA] Carroll Co. Lions
17 Fri 6/22/2012 1:00 PM F4 [GA] Gwinnett Yankees VS. [GA] Kennesaw Generals
18 Fri 6/22/2012 1:00 PM F8 [GA] Carroll Co. Lions VS. [GA] middle georgia moccasins
19 Sat 6/23/2012 3:00 PM F4 [GA] Gwinnett Yankees VS. [GA] middle georgia moccasins

Pool B
Game# Time Field Match Up Score
1 Thu 6/21/2012 4:00 PM F4 [GA] Oregon Park Sharks VS. [GA] East Cobb Black Knights
3 Thu 6/21/2012 6:00 PM F4 [GA] Hopewell Hawks VS. [GA] East Cobb Dodgers
14 Sat 6/23/2012 9:00 AM F8 [GA] Oregon Park Sharks VS. [GA] Hopewell Hawks
20 Sat 6/23/2012 3:00 PM F8 [GA] East Cobb Dodgers VS. [GA] Oregon Park Sharks
21 Sat 6/23/2012 5:00 PM F4 [GA] East Cobb Black Knights VS. [GA] Hopewell Hawks
23 Sat 6/23/2012 7:00 PM F4 [GA] East Cobb Black Knights VS. [GA] East Cobb Dodgers

Pool C
Game# Time Field Match Up Score
2 Thu 6/21/2012 4:00 PM F8 [GA] sharon springs spartans black VS. [GA] Cannons Baseball
4 Thu 6/21/2012 6:00 PM F8 [GA] East Cobb Diamondbacks VS. [GA] South Comets
8 Fri 6/22/2012 4:00 PM F8 [GA] Cannons Baseball VS. [GA] East Cobb Diamondbacks
10 Fri 6/22/2012 6:00 PM F8 [GA] South Comets VS. [GA] sharon springs spartans black
12 Fri 6/22/2012 8:00 PM F8 [GA] South Comets VS. [GA] Cannons Baseball
16 Fri 6/22/2012 11:00 AM F8 [GA] East Cobb Diamondbacks VS. [GA] sharon springs spartans black

Pool D
Game# Time Field Match Up Score
5 Thu 6/21/2012 8:00 PM F4 [GA] East Cobb Rays VS. [GA] Team Georgia-King
6 Thu 6/21/2012 8:00 PM F8 [GA] East Cobb Warriors VS. [GA] Acworth Warriors Blue
13 Sat 6/23/2012 9:00 AM F4 [GA] East Cobb Rays VS. [GA] Acworth Warriors Blue
15 Fri 6/22/2012 11:00 AM F4 [GA] East Cobb Warriors VS. [GA] Team Georgia-King
22 Sat 6/23/2012 5:00 PM F8 [GA] East Cobb Warriors VS. [GA] East Cobb Rays
24 Sat 6/23/2012 7:00 PM F8 [GA] Team Georgia-King VS. [GA] Acworth Warriors Blue
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yankeedad

133 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  17:38:20  Show Profile
ok...2 weeks ago I was kind of confused about ECB seeding for USSSA Major State and then someone cleared things up and I was good:
http://www.nwgabaseball.org/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21577

Now I am REALLY confused...

Why aren't USSSA points being used for seeding in this tournament as they were 2 weeks ago?

Assuming you arent using the USSSA seeding rationale - with 4 pools and 4 MJ teams, why wouldn't you put 1 MJ team in each pool?

Why are the top 2 teams (based on points) in the same pool?

Finally, the ECB team that is hosting the tournament is magically in the pool with no MJ teams...and not facing very tough comp(on paper).

With only the top 2 teams from each pool advancing, it would seem this is calculated.

Conspiracy theory is back on until further notice.
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kcndfan

80 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  21:25:04  Show Profile
It has all changed as they lost a field at ECB for the weekend. New schedule to come.
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1ballplayer

97 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  22:49:11  Show Profile
I can assure you that there is not a conspiracy. We lost a field that we planned to use just this morning. We had a ton of scheduling requests to work around and the schedule was NOT prepared by the host team. We only facilitated the requests and worked to get it published.

We hope this will be a fantastic tournament. Come on out and enjoy baseball the way it was meant to be played!

Edited by - 1ballplayer on 06/20/2012 23:02:16
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JJJ

12 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2012 :  23:09:22  Show Profile
I like the 11u dodgers and the 11u Astros in the ship.

Serious, I think braves fan or rays fan will have finally got one right. Rays win their first tournament! Congrats in advance.
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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2012 :  00:11:38  Show Profile
11u astros are in the triple crown tournament so they will not be in the ship, why was the field lost this weekend??
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yankeedad

133 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2012 :  19:07:24  Show Profile
Pool play still doesnt make much sense to me...why isnt a consistent format being used at these ECB USSSA events?

I am asking because i dont know; i thought USSSA dictated the format. For example, they USSSA points to determine match ups 2 weeks ago and someone said it was due to a USSSA rule.
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BatChipper

52 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2012 :  22:15:38  Show Profile
Wood bat tournaments seems to draw the teams closer, in the fact that teams that crush the ball, lose that aspect of the game. Getting runners on base then moving them over into scoring position will play a big part in this tournament. A team with a soild defense and can play small ball will go a long way in this tournament.
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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2012 :  22:37:49  Show Profile
as everyone now sees, the south comets are a decent team and 2-0 in pool. diamondbacks didn't schedule any cakewalks for themselves like a few thought

quote:
Originally posted by 1ballplayer

I can assure you that there is not a conspiracy. We lost a field that we planned to use just this morning. We had a ton of scheduling requests to work around and the schedule was NOT prepared by the host team. We only facilitated the requests and worked to get it published.

We hope this will be a fantastic tournament. Come on out and enjoy baseball the way it was meant to be played!

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1ballplayer

97 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2012 :  17:44:20  Show Profile
Yankee, we were never told that a specific format had to be used. We did it the old fashioned way. We basically drew names out of a hat, put them in pools and then worked around scheduling conflicts. The schedule was put together by an independent, third party so there was no home cooking, I can assure you.

As BravesFan stated, the South Comets are a good team. They will surprise a lot of people. If anyone knows me, they know I don't schedule cupcakes. If anything, I am criticized for pushing the envelope on challenging my team but we don't care about wins/wosses as much as player development. Don't get me wrong, we are an EXTREMELY competitive group but we don't trophy hunt, even in our own tournament!

Come out and watch some great baseball. Javy will be there all weekend!
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spliter

121 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2012 :  22:45:23  Show Profile
Thought the sharks would take the Dodgers. With men on first & third and no outs. Sharks were about to break it open but Dodgers brought in the lefty and shut them down. Great game.
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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2012 :  08:53:24  Show Profile
Looks like the rays and 11u dodgers are playing well, it was interesting to see some former east cobb boys playing for a team I'd never heard of down south although their impact wasn't enough to make it out of the 1st bracket game.

also, why is it that parents feel the need to come up to the dugout during the game to talk to their kid at this age? I can understand it at 9 but some are 13 and it's a little too much.
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dadof6

48 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2012 :  21:03:27  Show Profile
Great tournament! Well run! Javy is a class act. My players enjoyed meeting him. He took time with each of the players, signed autographs ,and took pictures with them. We will definitely sign up for the next tournament He is associated with.
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ecbinsider

318 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2012 :  23:15:05  Show Profile
Rays win 5-2, get that coveted tournament win after coming up short on a couple occasions.
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Gwinnett

791 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2012 :  00:44:51  Show Profile
Moccs, great game! The wood bat tourneys are always fun.
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moccs

349 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2012 :  17:04:16  Show Profile
We made a good run and were completely exhausted after 4 games on Sunday. We only had 9 guys available this weekend and since usssa rules applied could not add any. Other than a few technical details with the brackets the Diamondbacks put on a great tournament. It was nice to actually finish a tourney after games were rained out for most of Saturday. The Director was very accessible and did what was needed to get it in. Javier was a hit with the players even if some didn't know who he was at first.
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BravesFan

533 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2012 :  17:13:21  Show Profile
how you like me now?

quote:
Originally posted by Glenn Newton

quote:
Originally posted by BravesFan

rays are in along with a few other teams, look for carroll county and rays in ship

quote:
Originally posted by yankeedad

Makes sense...with that cleared up, who does everyone like?






Seriously, Rays in the ship? Never thought you'd say that

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1ballplayer

97 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2012 :  21:50:53  Show Profile
Congratulations to both the Moccasins and the Rays for making the championship game. They are both terrific representatives of the talent in the 12u age group!
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