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Mr. Deeds
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 Posted - 10/21/2012 : 18:00:56
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| Looks like AA Chain team lost to the two Major teams in the final. Thanks Game on and Naturals for great games. Not too bad a debut for a small team from Warner Robins. Just 0-3 but in them all till the end even if they ended early. LOL. We know what a good team looks like just now know what great players all on same great teams look Like. Great facility too. Really enjoyed it. Don't know much about Canton but that WPB Chargers team was good too. Thanks y'all. By the way, checked out Better Baseball while we were there in town. Heaven!!!! |
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Canton Chargers
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Posted - 10/21/2012 : 18:47:46
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Didn't see bulls play but know they are plentiful in talent. Guess the scores indicated that. Big congrats to the Nelson boys for a great weekend as well. Both of your teams should be proud with their performances.
See you all at the next one and have fun this Winter training for the Spring.
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Never give up
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Posted - 10/21/2012 : 21:47:17
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Great tourney this weekend at East Cobb. Good showings by some new teams.Congrats to Nelson Baseball School and
Game-On Bulls.I watched some of the games and travel baseball is gonna be fun in the spring. Even though its just the fall.... the Game-On Bulls dominated the weekend. |
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HeadFirst
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 08:52:49
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Great weekend of baseball. Enjoyed seeing old friends and getting a chance to see the boys play one in the fall. Excited about what the spring will hold for Game On Bulls. Thought the boys played great together for only having one practice prior to the tournament.
Congratulations to the Nelson boys for making the ship! They ran into a hitting display by the Bulls, but the boys and the parents handled it well and showed they are a real class act!!! Come spring, I am sure they will be a team to contend with! |
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larryjr
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 09:01:09
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| I've seen some discussion on the FB/CB pitching ratio. I heard there was a kid on Sunday that threw 6 inning and >100 pitches with at least 30-40% CB. If that is true, what are the thoughts on Trip Crown converting to pitch count vs. innings? |
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aboutthekids
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 15:39:30
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Congrats to the Bulls for their showing at this weekend. Hats off to all the kids.
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Originally posted by HeadFirst
Great weekend of baseball. Enjoyed seeing old friends and getting a chance to see the boys play one in the fall. Excited about what the spring will hold for Game On Bulls. Thought the boys played great together for only having one practice prior to the tournament.
Congratulations to the Nelson boys for making the ship! They ran into a hitting display by the Bulls, but the boys and the parents handled it well and showed they are a real class act!!! Come spring, I am sure they will be a team to contend with!
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aboutthekids
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 15:41:11
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reposting because of the confusion I caused yesterday afternoon.
Canton,
My statement is below.
I saw quite a few curve balls and spoke to a dad / ex coach I met there who mentioned the ratio.
I said nothing wrong with the curve if thrown correctly (imho).
I mentioned the ratio that was quoted to me and then followed it up by saying I wasn't sure of the exact ratio meaning that "I'm not sure of the exact ratio".
Canton, you guys did great. Hats off to you. Hope you have a great spring as well.
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Aboutthekids, why would you insinuate such a thing about pitches?
3-1 ratio on curve balls is a ridiculous statement. Not what I was calling on pitches. Why even make a statement like that?
We lost one of our 9 kids to the Astros on Wednesday. Had to get a fill in and Kennesaw kid helped out. He pitched his butt off and dad was asked every inning if he was good with another inning. We do soooooo much for the kids here and work our butts off to compete with the big programs. Yesterday was a great day for the boys and nothing you can say can diminish what they felt to compete with the Braves. They may have been off, sick, missing kids or went easy on us, but my boys felt great after the games and had fun.
We lost to the Yankees today, but am still proud of the boys and congratulate the Yankees.
See ya at the next one.
Chargers
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aboutthekids
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 15:45:45
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I "heard" from a few coaches concerning the high pitch count from the pitcher / team in question this past weekend. Last year I "saw" this same team pitch one of their top guys over the 100 mark. Take that into consideration along with the pregame pitches, then the warm ups between innings and the total rises upward to 140 plus.
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Originally posted by larryjr
I've seen some discussion on the FB/CB pitching ratio. I heard there was a kid on Sunday that threw 6 inning and >100 pitches with at least 30-40% CB. If that is true, what are the thoughts on Trip Crown converting to pitch count vs. innings?
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Canton Chargers
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 17:41:32
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I think you should talk to the coaches on this hear say stuff if your really concerned about it. Saying you heard from this person or that person or even assuming watching it yourself is kinda judgemental rather than factual. If a kid throws a fast ball with a lot of movement, you might assume the coach called a curve. IMHO. LOL
I normally call all fast balls until pitcher gets ahead in the count. If a kid looks sick swninging at a curve. I may call another one or blow a fast ball past him if I think he's looking for the junk again. Crap shoot on what to call sometimes, but posting things on this site about hear say just isn't right. again, just speaking IMHO :) Innings are a lot easier to monitor than pitch counts. Every kid or adult has different bodies. 50 pitches may be too much on some kids, while I throw about 300 balls a day in bp and am still holding up ok at 47 years old. (matter of opinion).
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aboutthekids
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 22:14:45
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You're right about the hearsay and although I didn't see a 3 to 1 ratio I did see a lot of curves and do know the difference between a fastball with movement and a curve. I didn't see anyone on any team throwing this weekend with too much movement on their fastballs to be honest with you.
Good luck to all in the spring.
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Originally posted by Canton Chargers
I think you should talk to the coaches on this hear say stuff if your really concerned about it. Saying you heard from this person or that person or even assuming watching it yourself is kinda judgemental rather than factual. If a kid throws a fast ball with a lot of movement, you might assume the coach called a curve. IMHO. LOL
I normally call all fast balls until pitcher gets ahead in the count. If a kid looks sick swninging at a curve. I may call another one or blow a fast ball past him if I think he's looking for the junk again. Crap shoot on what to call sometimes, but posting things on this site about hear say just isn't right. again, just speaking IMHO :) Innings are a lot easier to monitor than pitch counts. Every kid or adult has different bodies. 50 pitches may be too much on some kids, while I throw about 300 balls a day in bp and am still holding up ok at 47 years old. (matter of opinion).
I'm sure experts can tell you different, just my opinion (which everyone has one clearly).
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Canton Chargers
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 06:57:00
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| Glad to hear that. Can you find me a few that do? |
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HeadFirst
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 09:04:47
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The Bulls saw 14 or 15 different pitchers. Out of all the pitchers we saw, only one threw what I would consider an excessive number of curve balls. He only pitched one or maybe 2 innings. At 12 years old, I think the curve is history! The kids had trouble seeing it at 11. At 12, throw more than 1 or 2 per batter and it will get drilled.
As far as pitch counts I cant comment. Neither the Bulls or our opponents pitched anyone over a mid 60's pitch count! |
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IMHO
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 11:38:20
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My kid doesn't hit his stride until after pitch 20. He routinely throws 70-85 in a game. Thats what his arm can handle, what he has done for over a year now and he never has even the slightest issue with his arm. It's different for each player.
He also throws a "spinner" that looks like it could have been a curveball but it isn't. He never throws a pitch where his thumb ends pointing up towards the sky. At 13U he will be introduced to a true curveball pitching motion and it will take at least a year until he can effectively throw it in a game and then he will be limited to it's use. |
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