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the Guru
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 Posted - 05/11/2010 : 16:23:51
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| I can't speak for the Longhorns, but the Yard dogs matched up very well against the Florida teams having already beat Tampa Titans and Team Miami from last year, two of the best teams in florida. Also we beat two quality california teams in AABC World Series last year. We will see all those teams again @ the Elite 32 this August. On June 4th. we travel to Lake Charles La. to face top competition against Texas Banditos( who beat us for the USSSSA world Series last year) and many teams out of Mississippi, Lousiana, and Texas. Wish us luck |
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gohornets
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 00:01:06
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| Guru -- good luck, I think you guys are solid. It would be really cool to have a GA sweet 16 tournament before the year ends. So much changes from year to year, but the teams that I've seen play are really good teams. I personally would give the following teams automatic invitations (Yard Dogs, Longhorns, Yankees, OP Sharks), with 4 other invites determined thru a round robin with the final four getting an invite (Kennesaw, Covington, GA Red Sox, OTC, Signature Park, West Forsyth, HP Chili Dogs, GA Blues, Mill Creek, Ringgold, Acworth, GA Select, Elite Red, EP Mets, Georgia Blues). Seems like you can never get these teams together due to different sanctions or maybe scheduling issues. |
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baseballready
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 10:17:37
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gohornets --
Some of these teams are in Clash of the Champions tourney this weekend in Carrollton @ Lakeshore Baseball Complex.
10 teams currently registered
Yankees
OP Sharks
Covington
GA Red Sox
HP Chili Dogs
Wills Park
+ 4 AL teams
1st games Saturday pit HP Chili Dogs against Yankees then OP Sharks.
Should be interesting.
Acworth was listed earlier in the week but they are now listed @ Clash of Champs NIT in Hampton. |
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Calif_Baseball
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 10:51:50
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Guru What teams from Calif. did you face in the AABC world series?
We would love to come out east and match up with you guy's and a few of the other top teams out there. But for the same reasons you do not come to Calif. is the same we choose not to go to the elites this year....MONEY!! I know the oakley stingrays are going to the Elite WS, So they should give you and the other teams a run for your money. Our you going to Cooperstown next year as 10's? Would be real nice to get most of the top teams from the East,West,Southwest and Midwest together and have some fun.
Good Luck the rest of the way and if you need any info about the teams in the west just ask.
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the Guru
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 18:58:46
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| I think the name of that team was the southern california diablos., but i've heard great things about the teams out west especially the oakley stingrays.Louisiana and Texas is about as far west as we will go. Money!!! Any Sponsers out there??? |
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Calif_Baseball
292 Posts |
Posted - 05/13/2010 : 10:34:14
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Yeah there are sponsors, Maybe you heard of them....MOM and DAD..LOL!! Most of the top teams get approached by top sponsors but it is more about giving you gear than $$. They just want their Company name on the team than supporting them finacially.
I know the Diablos and they are a 500 team out here at best they have a couple of big kids that can ball. Oakley Stingrays are the real deal. They have some great talent on that team and the coaches have been there before. But the team to beat out here in Calif. is Nomads Elite. They just moved up the #1 on that other site. Which in the whole realm of things means nothing. But since they have added this one player 6 weeks ago they have destroyed everybody and beaten Oakley in a great game 3-2.
I know Oakley is making some moves to improve their roster. Which I don't think is right but we shall see this weekend. Nomads and Oakley face off on Sunday at 9:45am. Should be another classic.
I will keep you informed. Yard dogs playing this weekend? |
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youthbaseball
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 13:36:11
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Originally posted by the Guru
I can't speak for the Longhorns, but the Yard dogs matched up very well against the Florida teams having already beat Tampa Titans and Team Miami from last year, two of the best teams in florida. Also we beat two quality california teams in AABC World Series last year. We will see all those teams again @ the Elite 32 this August. On June 4th. we travel to Lake Charles La. to face top competition against Texas Banditos( who beat us for the USSSSA world Series last year) and many teams out of Mississippi, Lousiana, and Texas. Wish us luck
The longhorns continue to win...thet won the triple crown championship last weekend against the blue jays. Run ruled almost every team they faced. Just playing good ball.... |
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youthbaseball
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 13:39:00
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Originally posted by Calif_Baseball
Yeah there are sponsors, Maybe you heard of them....MOM and DAD..LOL!! Most of the top teams get approached by top sponsors but it is more about giving you gear than $$. They just want their Company name on the team than supporting them finacially.
I know the Diablos and they are a 500 team out here at best they have a couple of big kids that can ball. Oakley Stingrays are the real deal. They have some great talent on that team and the coaches have been there before. But the team to beat out here in Calif. is Nomads Elite. They just moved up the #1 on that other site. Which in the whole realm of things means nothing. But since they have added this one player 6 weeks ago they have destroyed everybody and beaten Oakley in a great game 3-2.
I know Oakley is making some moves to improve their roster. Which I don't think is right but we shall see this weekend. Nomads and Oakley face off on Sunday at 9:45am. Should be another classic.
I will keep you informed. Yard dogs playing this weekend?
The longhorns are not making roster moves other than adding for the 2 eight yr olds that have decided to play down. They have nice team chemistry. |
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the Guru
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Posted - 05/13/2010 : 20:27:36
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Cali baseball.,
We play a 10 major team this friday night called the Georgia Grays. They are pretty good with great team speed. Saturday we have our family fun day @ the park so no games for us this weekend. keep me posted on that Nomads vs. stingrays game |
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youthbaseball
91 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2010 : 01:50:59
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Guru, What is next 9u tourney you will play in Georgia. We would like to try and hook up. Thanksquote:
Originally posted by the Guru
Cali baseball.,
We play a 10 major team this friday night called the Georgia Grays. They are pretty good with great team speed. Saturday we have our family fun day @ the park so no games for us this weekend. keep me posted on that Nomads vs. stingrays game
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the Guru
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Posted - 05/16/2010 : 20:28:24
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| Looks like its going to be the wooden bat classic Memorial Day weekend |
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Calif_Baseball
292 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2010 : 15:16:11
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Originally posted by the Guru
Cali baseball.,
We play a 10 major team this friday night called the Georgia Grays. They are pretty good with great team speed. Saturday we have our family fun day @ the park so no games for us this weekend. keep me posted on that Nomads vs. stingrays game
Guru, The games between the Nomads and Oakley were as good as advertised. In the first game The Nomad were down 12-5 and came storming back to beat Oakley 13-12. The Nomads went 3-0 with wins over SoCal Outlaws and Punishers. Oakley Beat Oakley Black and barely got by the Wolverines.
The Final matched them up again in this one day tourney. Nomads got off to a 4-0 lead then Oakley came back to tie it. It was a back and forth battle. Again the Nomads came stormin back agian to cut the Oakley lead to 12-11 then Oakley was batting in the bottom of the 4th when the umps called the game because of the 1:45 time limit.
You would think neither team had any pitching, But that is not the case. They both have great pitching staffs that throw in the high 50's. This was one of those weekends where everybody was crushing the ball.
So the day ended with Nomads vs Oakley spliting the 2 games they played. It was a long long day. Starting at 8am and ending at 7pm with very little breaks between games.
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Leebegbaseball
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Posted - 05/18/2010 : 07:16:34
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With those scores I would think that they need better pitching
for some of these better hitting teams. Letting
a team come back on a 12-4 lead says something
as well. I know as far as the two top Georgia team,
yard dogs can crush the ball and the defense of
the longhorns is incredible. They have allowed an
average of 2.5 runs a game this season and most
of that is their pitching. They have about 3 pitchers
that pitch in low to mid 60's and another 4 that
pitch in high 50's. I know they really want to meet up
with some of these west coast teams |
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Calif_Baseball
292 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 10:36:24
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WOW my BS detector just went through the roof. Let me explain about pitching speed. There is no way they have 3 pitchers throwing in the low to mid 60's at 9 years old. Most 11 and 12 year olds team have players that average mid 60's with a few in the 70's. C'mon we are talking about 9 year olds here. If they had that type of pitching they would beat most 10 and 11U teams.
Well then maybe the should travel outside the South. I have said before it is always up to the west coast teams to travel east to play. I have never seen any east coast teams ever travel to Calif. to play. I am sure you will see Oakley at the Elite World Series. Make sure you bring all those pitchers. |
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the Guru
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Posted - 05/18/2010 : 11:29:12
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| Yeah Leebegbaseball are writing those checks and the Yard Dogs have to try to cash. He's talking about how good and strong the longhorns pitching is, but they're not going to the elite 32., which means the yard dogs have to catch all the heat. but it's cool, we love the heat. I agree 60plus mph fast ball is pretty darn fast for a 9 year old. but the faster it comes in the faster it goes out( if the radar gun is accurate) |
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Leebegbaseball
29 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 12:02:03
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I wish it was BS so maybe we could beat them. My son plays for a very
good team out of acworth and we usually have a radar at every game.
I personally saw it hit 65mph for one kid and 60mph on the next.
The other pitchers were not too far off. Of course this was not every
pitch. Our boys are big and usually crush the ball and we could not
hit them. I don't even think we got on base that game. You are right,
they are only 9 and therefore can be up or down so anyone is beatable.
To answer your 10u statement, I do believe they have beaten many
of the 10u teams in the area. I don't know if they are going to elite
but I would imagine they would. Sorry to upset you, I was just commenting. |
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baseballnutz
427 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 12:15:50
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| Calif - your BS detector is dead on. They have 1 picher that might touch 60 when he is really pushing, the rest are mid to high 50's which is very good for this age group. I think Leebeg gets alittle excited! |
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GA Grays
42 Posts |
Posted - 05/18/2010 : 13:16:52
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| In the Elite 32 last year at 9u there was only one kid consistently in the 60's. The other good ones were mid 50's. I would argue that there are not 3 kids on the 9u competitive circuit here in GA throwing consistently (1st pitch of game, and last pitch of game) in the 60's. So the idea of 3 on the same team is insane. |
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And1
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Posted - 05/18/2010 : 22:33:34
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| Thank you Leebegbaseball for your feelings about the Longhorn pitchers. But I can assure you we have 1 kid that can get there when he's on and the others throw up in the 50's when their on. But let me tell you regardless of whether your from the west coast or the east coast...your in california or your the great GURU and his very talented Yard Dogs, the Longhorns preach and execute location, location, location. They mix up speeds very well and their overall runs allowed is low because of that and has NOTHING to do with whether some folks think they have multiple kids that throw hard or whatever! Guru is right, the harder these kids throw the farther it goes. But the smarter and more accurate they throw plays right into the Longhorns strength...DEFENSE! So GURU and Calif Baseball a little less with the BS comments and a little more of the understanding of how the Longhorn team is set up and how they approach the game. And if we have teams that think we got 3 kids that throw in the 60's so be it! Funny, the kid that does get it up there has the nastiest changeup around and that is what makes him effective...not how hard he throws. Oh yeah...the average runs allowed is 2.3 for THE YEAR, 10U included. And we have 9 kids that pitch. You do the math and ask is the team is well coached, executing a team philosophy, and teaching how to pitch, or is it the "3" kids that throw in the 60's? (which by the way may or may not be true...who knows about the BS meter!) And thanks for the excitement LEEBEG, its makes the GURU and CALIF BASEBALL continue to post. And one last thing concerning the ELITE 32. We start school here in north Georgia Aug 1st. The Elite 32 is during school for 11 of the 12 kids. Their 9 years old and there are plenty of Elite 32's to come. Not one baseball tournament no matter the prestige is worth kids missing a week of school. So keep the bravado comments and the ducking inuendos to yourselves. We'll play baseball and take on the challenges necessary and one day these teams will get their chances to meet. Until then know the facts before running at the spout about why a team like the Longhorns is leaving the Yard Dogs on their own. Selah! |
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bball2008
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 08:34:38
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| Is this some kind of "Sidd Finch"-Sports Illustrated-esque joke? A 9u team with 3+ kids throwing in the low-mid 60's and 4 others in the mid-50's??? When did they pick these kids up? Certainly weren't at those 10u tournaments at ECB and ATPP. Might want to return that radar gun back to Big Lots and invest in a real one. |
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And1
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 09:52:49
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| The Longhorns have not said one negative thing EVER about another team no matter how much bravado these discussions entail. Read the previous post by AND1 and you'll know that the story of the speed was squashed. And unless your 10U team was the ECB Braves or the Shiloh Titans, whatever speed the Longhorn pitchers were throwing at the 13 other 10U teams was certainly effective! Like I said who gives a rats behind about what others think the speed is, teach the kids to pitch and locate and change speeds and it wins ballgames. Truth is in the results. Lets move the discussion to the quality of the 9U teams in our area, focus on their positives and quit trash talking what ONE person not even associated with the Longhorns thought. Matter of fact go ahead and keep talking about how great the Yard dogs are and the California teams are and the Florida teams are because I can honestly say, the Longhorns worry about one team...THEMSELVES! Return your comments to Big Lots along with that radar gun. |
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Calif_Baseball
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 10:45:30
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And 1 thanks for clear up your pitching speeds. Personally It does not matter how fast a kid throws, Especially with the Elite teams. Most of the kids on ELITE 9U teams can hit 60+ pitchers because most teams play top 10U teams. You are correct in saying that changing speeds and location is what pitching is all about.
I cannot comment on the ducking or the "Facts" as you say it. All I can say is here in Calif. We love to face all the top teams. We often put together Fundraising tournaments with all the top teams as we did last weekend. We charish the challenge week in and week out. I am a true believer of "You Must Face the Best to Be the Best". you see our team will not get better by winning tournaments and beating teams 15-0. We duck nobody. In fact we go after teams that keep droping out of tourney's we enter.
Obviously the Longhorns have had a hard time beating the Yard Dogs, Of your your 5 meetings last year the Longhorns are 0-5. And 1 You need to make this game happen, You coaches need a barometer of where your team stands. This is just my opinion. I have no idea how far apart your 2 teams are from each other. Heck you may be 300 miles...LOL All I do know is they need to play. I know our kids love it everytime we play Oakley. In fact after the games win or lose you look over on the playground and all the boy's from both teams are over there playing with each other. We as parents can learn from this as it is only a KIDS game.
As far as our pitching this past weekend. We had to pitch from 46 and not the normal 44. If you know anything about baseball you know that makes a huge difference. Most of the games Oakley and Nomads play are low scoring.
One a last note. Our the Longhorns or Yard Dogs planing on going to Cooperstown next year during 10U week? Would really like to see you out there.
And1 good luck the rest of the way and I am sure one day we will cross paths. |
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And1
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 11:46:31
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Great to hear back positively CALIF Baseball! I wish we could get out there once a year but it is tough! We are planning to go to Cooperstown next year so we look forward to meeting and playing some of the very best teams at our age level. Apologize for the ducking comment if you took it as coming at you. Honestly, I was referring to the GURU comment about going alone and I took a little offense to it. School is more important than baseball and next year 10U Elite 32 is in July so that is what we will shoot for as far as that national tourney goes. We are playing in the AAU Nationals in June so we should get a real good guage on where we shook out in 2010 from that week of play. On another note, we would love to play the Yard dogs and had a chance earlier in the year but our lone loss to a 9U team was to a quality PSA White Sox team in the Semi's of the Atlanta Super NIT. However, we have been playing 10U tourneys and the Yard Dogs have not...except for the one last week which was in their backyard. We entered the 9U Triple Crown North Atlanta Open last week because the Yard Dogs were entered and pulled out of the 10U tourney we were originally scheduled for but at the last minute they chose to pull out of the TC tourney. However, we got a chance to play a solid club, Greenville Priates, out of South Carolina and I can assure you they were as good as anyone we had faced at the 9U level. Two very good games that we we fortunate to come out on top of, but quality baseball, super kids, parents, and class act coaches that do it right! Look forward to seeing them down the road and you'll see them at the Elite 32 because they are going. Good group! Anyway, we will continue to try to meet up with the Dogs and it simply has come down to tough scheduling for both of us since we are on 2 opposite ends of Atlanta. But they got a great program and Coach Boo is a good friend so we'll hook up eventually. Another solid team that is playing at an Elite level is the ECB Yankees. We had a great game with them last night...3-2 nailbiter with great pitching. Our battles with them are awesome and I don't think they get mentioned enough as one of the truly elite teams in Georgia and the country.
One last thing...you guys out west pitch from 44'? All of our tourneys and games are 46' at 9U here. You sure you got that right? Anyway, we look forward to seeing you and keeping track of all your successes in Cali! We don't have to play you guys to know that teams such as Oakley and Nomads are the creme of the crop along with a ton of others in the great state of California. Actually where I'm from and played as a kid so I can only imagine the competition and overall comraderie that exists among your teams! Have a great weekend and good luck in all the big ones! |
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Leebegbaseball
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 13:35:22
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Oh man I am so sorry longhorns for starting
such a heated discussion. You guys have an
incredible team regardless of pitching. Sorry that
you guys think the radar gun is faulty but I
saw with my own eyes when we played the longhorns
at the super nit. Is it so hard to believe that
we could have elite 9u pitching in Georgia?
And1 thanks for clarifying, this kid only hit over
60 on 2 pitches but we still could not hit him.
I still think it is great. You guys have a lot of different
pitchers from what I have seen. Cont the good work. |
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Calif_Baseball
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 14:51:44
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USSSA is at 44ft everybody else is at 46'. I have admired the whole East Cobb program for years. Wish they had something like that out here in Ca. I was disapointed that the Yard Dogs did not get to play Team Miami a few weeks back. The last day got rained out. I think they are going to La. in June to play all those TX teams. Should be a good tourney. My son has played against Avenger Force in Colorado last year. They are suppose to be the best team in TX. Well we beat them 7-0 or somthing like that at TC world series in Steamboat. Good team but not an Elite one. I know that the Baditos Black won the 8U WS last year but have been getting beaten by Anvenger Force all year in TX.
The Nomads Elite are working towards next year at 10U. That is when our real coach takes over full time. Ask a few of the East Cobb 13 or 14 old coaches who Wes Etheridge is...He is a travelball legend. Coached Bryce Harper among others. This coach is the real deal and is the one who recruited my boy over to the Nomads. He is finishing up with his Nitro Elite 14 this year. But he runs all of our practices.
This weekend we are playing in another local tourney except it is in 10U. We get the pleasure of playing the #3 team in the nation at 10U the So Cal Outlaws. Don't expect to win but do expect the boy's to compete.
And1 and Guru Good luck with all your big tourney's and I will stop by and check in to let you know what is going on in Calif.
Let me know if you two teams ever schedule a game I might have to fly out to watch...LOL
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youthbaseball
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 14:57:09
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Yeah Leebegbaseball are writing those checks and the Yard Dogs have to try to cash. He's talking about how good and strong the longhorns pitching is, but they're not going to the elite 32., which means the yard dogs have to catch all the heat. but it's cool, we love the heat. I agree 60plus mph fast ball is pretty darn fast for a 9 year old. but the faster it comes in the faster it goes out( if the radar gun is accurate)
Guru, leebegbaseball is not a part of the longhorn family. I wish we had 7 kids throwing in 50-60 mph range. We don't..... I think we have matched up pretty well with all 10u and 9u teams we have played and want nothing but good competition. The 10us we have played have a winning record against 10u teams and 11u teams. The 9u's are very good teams. No one is bashing anyone in 9u baseball. the Yard Dogs especially. You have a great team. Let's play a double header on a normal size field let the kids have fun. When can we make it happen? |
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