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RUSemiPro

88 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2019 :  22:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From what I've seen in fall and spring

1. Smartence
2. Homeplate Searcy
3. ECB Orange
4. Cell block

Not sure about all the others.
GA Power, 643 Cougars, Squeeze the Jury is still out on them until they go 60/90

Reign as we knew them last year, does not exist anymore so cross them off the list

Five Star and Georgia Braves - don't have enough to comment on.

Georgia Jackets both squads will be interesting to watch - heard one kid went over the pitch count last tournament. If that is the case over 95 pitches 1st tourney in that weather, don't let Dr. Andrew's find out.

This will be an interesting transition year for sure.

I was really impressed with what I've seen with Smartense, one or two weeks is not end all be all, but I'd put them at the top right now.

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Originally posted by RBIKING

In order
1. Homeplate
2. Cell block
3. GA Power
4. Squeeze
5. Smartence
6. EC Astros
7. 643 cougars
8. Five Star Haynes
9. Georgia Braves
10. Reign Baseball

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The Duke

9 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2019 :  13:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IMO Homeplate, Cell Block, Squeeze, 643, GA Jackets, etc... need to step up to 60/90 if they want to be considered a top team in 13u. 54/80 Major and Minor is basically like playing 13u minor. Come on guys go play on a big field.
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baseball fan 07

22 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2019 :  16:51:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You might need to do a little more research on that. One of those teams has played all 60/90 this spring... not that it matters. I'm sure each team is doing what they feel is best for their organization. To each is own.
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turntwo

941 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2019 :  17:21:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think lots of teams have kids playing school ball, so they are limited in what they can 'go after'. I'd say, unless you have a team full of bigger boys, that 10-foot jump from the mound is no joke. You could do more harm than good to the young men's arms by rushing it. At this point, and moving on up in ages, it's not longer as important as "who's the top"... Every team has to have one goal in mind: preparing the players for the next level. (High school for now). Some teams have lots of 8th graders, so you may see them playing more 60/90, where as a team with more 7th graders are playing the intermediate-sized field to again, hone and develop, and prep those kids for the next level. Next year, as is evident as years past, the 14U and above boards die off... No longer is it about "team", it's about the individual kids. Those committing. Showcases. PG stats. Or, if there is talk about which team is best... it's not "Astros", "HP", or "643"... Nope, it's Glynn Academy, Valdosta, Camden Co., Cartersville, Blessed Trinity.... The high school team. Where your kids doesn't have a choice to choose a team 'a county over' to meet his level for playing time... Nope. You're either good enough, or your not. OR, your parents play the politics game.
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The Duke

9 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2019 :  16:53:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry I didn't know one or some of these teams may have played, 60/90. You are right it is to each is own. I just have not seen them in any 60/90 events.


quote:
Originally posted by baseball fan 07

You might need to do a little more research on that. One of those teams has played all 60/90 this spring... not that it matters. I'm sure each team is doing what they feel is best for their organization. To each is own.

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The Duke

9 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2019 :  17:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding the 60/90 vs 54/80, I get it. Some kids just are not ready for 60/90 at 13u, however some of your better teams should be I would think. I've been around baseball over 40 years, Rec, travel, college, etc...
Rec ball players who play Junior League as 13 year olds which is part of the International Little League umbrella play on 60/90 fields. I have watched some 13 year old players struggle with it while others make a very easy transition, and that is considering they are coming from Little League fields that are 46/60. A few years ago Little League International came out with a 50/70 intermidiate division for 12 and 13 year olds. Not that any of this really means anything to travel ball and this forum, but I just find it very interesting with this age group and the transition.
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RBIKING

39 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2019 :  18:06:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do anybody know who the best
13u team is?
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RBIKING

39 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2019 :  23:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RBIKING

Does anybody know who the best
13u team is?

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baseball fan 07

22 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2019 :  23:31:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke

Regarding the 60/90 vs 54/80, I get it. Some kids just are not ready for 60/90 at 13u, however some of your better teams should be I would think. I've been around baseball over 40 years, Rec, travel, college, etc...
Rec ball players who play Junior League as 13 year olds which is part of the International Little League umbrella play on 60/90 fields. I have watched some 13 year old players struggle with it while others make a very easy transition, and that is considering they are coming from Little League fields that are 46/60. A few years ago Little League International came out with a 50/70 intermidiate division for 12 and 13 year olds. Not that any of this really means anything to travel ball and this forum, but I just find it very interesting with this age group and the transition.

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baseball fan 07

22 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2019 :  23:36:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It gets confusing, some of those programs have multiple teams...
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke

Sorry I didn't know one or some of these teams may have played, 60/90. You are right it is to each is own. I just have not seen them in any 60/90 events.


quote:
Originally posted by baseball fan 07

You might need to do a little more research on that. One of those teams has played all 60/90 this spring... not that it matters. I'm sure each team is doing what they feel is best for their organization. To each is own.



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turntwo

941 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2019 :  16:33:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RBIKING

Do anybody know who the best
13u team is?



60/90:
1-Smartense
2 HomePlate


<long way down>


3 (tie) Astros Orange
3 (tie) Astros Navy
3 (tie) FiveStar
3 (tie) Cellblock
3 (tie) TE Premier

54/80
1 Titans Blue
2/3 GA Bombers (both teams)
The rest is a jumbled mess, but the above 3 teams are consistent in the Gold Brackets.
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The Duke

9 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2019 :  16:45:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IMO 60/90 based on records, head to head and end of tournament standings I would say these three teams below are very close to each other of being the top 13u teams so far playing 60/90.

I would probably give Smartense the #1 spot based on who they beat, their overall record, by how much the won by and the two PG Championships won. Smartense has won two 60/90 PG Championships beating TE Premier twice in final games but lost to Astro Navy in one final game.

I would then say #2 Astros Navy on winning two PG Championships as well. Astros Navy has won two 60/90 PG Tournaments by beating Smartense and TE Premier each in the Championship games.

#3 TE Premier is getting to the Championship games they just haven't won a tournament yet. TE Premier has lost three PG championship games to the above two teams.









quote:
Originally posted by RBIKING

Do anybody know who the best
13u team is?

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darden19

1 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2019 :  17:12:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with The Duke, although at this age, any of the top 8-10 teams could beat anyone on a given day. And the rankings would be much different if teams like East Cobb astros and the GA jackets tried to make 1 super team and 1 bad team instead of evenly dividing their talent into 2 even teams. Teams like the Astros and jackets have 2 major level teams while teams like Smarttense have a major and and then a "AA" team
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RUSemiPro

88 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2019 :  13:52:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree not just ECB and GA Jackets. Team Elite did the same thing no stacked #1 team either, which is why we are seeing what we are seeing with Home Plate and SmarTense way out in the front of the pack, then
ECB, Jackets, Team Elite and others there at that next tier with two balanced teams vs one super team.. One could argue if they shuffled teams and built super teams, yes the gap would close. Rumor has it ECB Navy is picking up 3-5 players from ECB Orange and dropping a few back to Orange to build Navy up as their stronger team, hard to tell if you look at the rosters they both look almost identical.

GA Bombers did the same as Home Plate and SmarTense, and they stacked the Gaines team who has been playing well at 54/80. This week they finally make the jump to 60/90 so real curious to see how they fare against some stronger competition and the bigger field. Their match up against ECB Navy will be a good indicator.

In the end, it's 13U baseball and we should be developing them for the future so it really should be about good quality reps against good competition at this point. I actually these balanced teams are good for allowing for players that would sit on these mega teams get good quality reps and build depth in those programs for the future vs some plastic trophies and bragging rights now.


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Originally posted by darden19

I agree with The Duke, although at this age, any of the top 8-10 teams could beat anyone on a given day. And the rankings would be much different if teams like East Cobb astros and the GA jackets tried to make 1 super team and 1 bad team instead of evenly dividing their talent into 2 even teams. Teams like the Astros and jackets have 2 major level teams while teams like Smarttense have a major and and then a "AA" team

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2seamfbaway

9 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2019 :  20:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Didn’t see any of the games live, but Bombers Gaines made an impressive run this weekend taking out HP and taking ST to 10 innings. At least this weekend they seem among the top teams even at 60/90.
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TeamFirst

16 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2019 :  13:22:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Smartense has had the most success this season but I saw HP for the first time this weekend and I think they are the team to beat. LOADED. EC Astros Navy now that they have all the top kids on a team is for real just had a tough schedule this weekend playing HP in pool and Smartense in game 1 of bracket.

Seems to be a drop after that but Bombers might have something to say about that.
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Go Teeaamm

1 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2019 :  22:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So quiet in here! Been awhile so whatcha y’all thinking now?
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darden17

4 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2019 :  10:05:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cellblock and Homeplate are top 2 IMO.

Both have great depth and coaching.
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Gapper

63 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2019 :  08:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just stop with the CellBlock talk. They have yet to enter a tournament with the other top teams.
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neverbunt

2 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2019 :  15:58:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darden17

Cellblock and Homeplate are top 2 IMO.

Both have great depth and coaching.


Cellblock hasn't played a top team all year, and Astros Navy have beat HP twice, both times in bracket.

Edited by - neverbunt on 06/19/2019 16:49:35
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darden17

4 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2019 :  07:15:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cellblock just beat up one of the very best pitchers in 13 y/o atlanta baseball for 10 runs in 2 innings

Cellblock and HP best 2 teams at 13.
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Team13

19 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2019 :  12:25:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darden17

Cellblock just beat up one of the very best pitchers in 13 y/o atlanta baseball for 10 runs in 2 innings

Cellblock and HP best 2 teams at 13.



Cellblock looked really good last weekend. Definitely one of the best lineups in 13U. I'm not sure if you were at the semifinal game between Cellblock and Smyrna Slammers. If so, I think you'd agree that the umpire ruined that game. It should've been one of the best games of the tournament. I've seen a lot of games over the years and I've never seen a worse ump behind the plate. Both teams were losing their minds with his continual refusal to call a strike. It seemed like both pitchers had to serve up meatballs to get a call. When pitchers have to do that against those two lineups, it can make for a long day. There were 3 HR's in the 1st inning (1 for Cellblock and 2 for Slammers). I agree with you in the fact that the Slammers pitcher is easily one of the best pitchers in 13U baseball. Cellblock took advantage of the situation and chased him early. That's something great teams have the ability to do. Very impressive team. Definitely one of the best in 13U to go along with Home Plate and Smartense. Bombers Gaines should be in the discussion, as well.
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KentMurphy

83 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2019 :  13:55:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let's see...

HP played in PBR for the NC with some STOUT out of state talent. Tons of teams.

ST and ECB Astros Navy played in a pretty good PG tourney, with some stout out of state talent. Not quite as deep as PBR, but decent tourney.

HP won.

ST/Astros were 'tied for 3rd place'.

That's a critical difference. Late season, when teams SHOULD be firing on all cylinders, and ready for 'long haul tough tourneys' and HP came to do it, while ST/Astros couldn't put it together.

No doubt, Astros, ST, and HP are in a different universe than the rest. Sorry, but Cellblock hasn't shown enough. They've come to ATL 3x's? Once in the fall, twice in the spring now? They've yet to win one up here, even w/o some of the best teams in ATL playing in those tourneys? 5-Star National and Chain could potentially be above Cellblock even though they don't come north... When they do, they jump in the tourneys loaded with top teams.
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neverbunt

2 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2019 :  16:26:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darden17

Cellblock just beat up one of the very best pitchers in 13 y/o atlanta baseball for 10 runs in 2 innings

Cellblock and HP best 2 teams at 13.


This post made me LOL. I've seen Cellblock play many times this year and their lineup just falls off after the 5 hitter. Just because they have won one tournament (Not to mention this tournament had none of the top teams) doesn't mean they're one of the top teams at 13...

Edited by - neverbunt on 06/23/2019 17:46:39
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TeamFirst

16 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2019 :  11:14:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now that the season is wrapping up - here are my end of the year rankings..

1. Homeplate Searcy - called it after we first played them, have 4-5 kids that would be the top pitcher for almost any other team
2. STB - great season, scrappy team. Big lefty is a workhorse and one of best in ga
3. Titans blue - seem to be there at the end of every tournament
4. Cellblock agree with other posters that they are unknown at this time still - could be higher or maybe not even on this list
5. East Cobb Astros Navy - talent top to bottom but season has been up and down. Could be top hitting team in the state
6. GA Bombers - all big kids that can hit
7. Team Elite Premier - quality team with quality wins all year, a piece or two away from being in the top tier
8. 643 Cougars - lots of talent with not much to show for it
9. Meridian Panthers - very athletic
10. Georgia Power Myers
11. Homeplate Copeland - good team that sometimes gets lost in the discussion due to how elite the top Homeplate team is
12. Barrett Braves - solid
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