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TODDS

153 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2011 :  19:43:40  Show Profile
Brackets are out. Any predictions?

metsFan

63 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2011 :  22:13:36  Show Profile
Yes, it's going to be a long Sunday for the teams that make it to the championship. You better have some deep pitching if you want to pull this out.
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touchemall

145 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2011 :  23:43:09  Show Profile
I predict no rain...
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  10:33:57  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by metsFan

Yes, it's going to be a long Sunday for the teams that make it to the championship. You better have some deep pitching if you want to pull this out.


Yeah, I have to agree. There are some very good teams in this one. Even the AA teams are good. Pool play games will be a big factor too, because seeding is going to be very important in this one, especially as far as pitching depth is concerned.
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thegoat

29 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  10:50:17  Show Profile
Who is Ringgold Baseball Factory?
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baseballready

188 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  10:58:40  Show Profile
Website says that all Friday night games were moved to Saturday due to heavy rain in Dalton area. Quick review shows that pool games were not just moved but pools changed since last night.

Interesting that Pool B has 4 Chattanooga teams + JCS Jackhammers and Pool D has 4 Marietta teams + Ringold Baseball Factory.

Edited by - baseballready on 03/10/2011 12:13:28
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4bagger

131 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  11:27:11  Show Profile
The #4 and #5 seeds in each pool would need to play 3 games on Saturday followed by winning another 4 on Sunday to win it all! Thats alot of baseball for 10 year olds. ANY team needs to win 4 on Sunday and half the teams would be playing back to back to back to back. Who's got 12 quality pitchers on the team and 6 catchers? Thats your winner.
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  12:27:50  Show Profile
quote:
half the teams would be playing back to back to back to back

Our team always performs better when playing 2 or 3 games in a row as opposed to sitting around for 2 hours or more between games. And they'll all tell you that they would rather play back to back games instead of having to wait. I don't think that it'll be a big deal since it's still early in the season. If it were May or June, it would be a different story because of the heat.
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  12:31:08  Show Profile
quote:
Interesting that Pool B has 4 Chattanooga teams + JCS Jackhammers and Pool D has 4 Marietta teams + Ringold Baseball Factory.

Does anyone know how pools are usually chosen? Does USSSA rankings/standings have anything to do with it? Or do they just randomly draw names out of a hat or something?
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12uCoach

357 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  12:33:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by baseballready

Website says that all Friday night games were moved to Saturday due to heavy rain in Dalton area. Quick review shows that pool games were not just moved but pools changed since last night.

Interesting that Pool B has 4 Chattanooga teams + JCS Jackhammers and Pool D has 4 Marietta teams + Ringold Baseball Factory.



Pools appear to be done STRICTLY by USSSA rules. Look at the 1-20 seeding and pool B is 2-7-10-15-18 and pool D is 4-5-12-13-20.

FYI, Championship Day at Cooperstown, winner has to win 4, so it's a good test.
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baseballready

188 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  12:45:59  Show Profile
They were the Ringgold Tigers last year. Took 2nd at Grand Slam Sports World Series (Session 2) and handled some tough teams along the way.
quote:
Originally posted by thegoat

Who is Ringgold Baseball Factory?

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CenterField

138 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  13:18:18  Show Profile
Im not sure why they completely scrapped the pools and started over. Part of the excitement of playing in a tournament away from home is seeing teams that you don't normally face. That's not going to be happening much in pool play.

Also, I wonder why they arent having Gold and Silver brackets with 20 teams competing. Really makes for a tough Sunday schedule. There are probably only 2-3 teams in the tournament that have this much depth.
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baseballready

188 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  15:49:58  Show Profile
12U Coach,
Looking at the USSSA Tournament Central link, I see the Pool Play Schedule, Pool Standings, Bracket After Pool and Innings Pitched. Where are the seedings shown? Also, you mentioned "USSSA rules" for seeding/pools. Where might those be found? Looked through the USSSA Official Baseball National By-Laws and Rules 2011 but could not find anything related.

http://www.gausssabaseball.com/images/uploads/pdffiles/Rule_Book.pdf

Just curious why the original match-ups were different if the current schedule is USSSA proper.

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Originally posted by 12uCoach

[Pools appear to be done STRICTLY by USSSA rules. Look at the 1-20 seeding and pool B is 2-7-10-15-18 and pool D is 4-5-12-13-20.

FYI, Championship Day at Cooperstown, winner has to win 4, so it's a good test.


Edited by - baseballready on 03/10/2011 16:47:08
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Southern Baseball

165 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  18:06:03  Show Profile
main reason was we added another field to keep teams from being there real late saturday and the championship game moved from around 8 pm to around 4:30 sunday evening. sorry guys for the inconvince
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touchemall

145 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  20:27:18  Show Profile
I am also curious why teams are traveling over an hour to play their neighbor's kids in pool play. They could stay home and do that.
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Glove Smacker

47 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  21:38:51  Show Profile
Any predictions on Pool Winners?
Here's mine:
Pool A ... SP Xplosion
Pool B ... Chattanooga Chiefs
Pool C ... EC Yankees
Pool D ... Ringgold Baseball Factory

I pick Ringgold Baseball Factory to win it all.
EC Yanks, EC Mudcats, Chiefs or Xplosion could play for the title.
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12uCoach

357 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  23:15:03  Show Profile
1. Seeding: http://www.usssa.com/sports/TournamentSeedingReport.asp?TournID=728430

2. Creating Pools: OK, urban legend, but system used every year I played in USSSA State or NIT to create pool works well. System was to rank teams by Major/AAA/AA, then by points, then by date/Time signed up for USSSA. Teams the go through a snake draft for pool creation. Takes out any and all prejudice. Creates silly pools (See pool B and pool D).
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baseballnutz

427 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2011 :  23:37:23  Show Profile
Ringold vs Yankees final, with the Yankees coming out on top.
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baseballready

188 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2011 :  07:50:26  Show Profile
12UCoach - thanks for your help. I looked at the list of teams playing 20+ times and didn't think to consider it as the seeding. Makes sense. As does your "snake draft" explanation.

Southern Baseball - thanks for working with what Mother Nature gave you. Moving Friday games to Saturday and still shortening championship Sunday from 8 to 4:30 is quite a task. I hope the weather is clear as forecast.
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itsbaseballtime

348 Posts

Posted - 03/11/2011 :  13:40:50  Show Profile
is battle at the branch a usssa or tc tournament?
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 03/12/2011 :  09:50:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by itsbaseballtime

is battle at the branch a usssa or tc tournament?



USSSA AA only
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Hillio

123 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2011 :  00:00:49  Show Profile
Interesting brackets. Should make for a fun Sunday.

http://www.usssa.com/sports/BracketPool.asp?Tournament=728430

I had never seen the Coal Mountain Storm play until today, but they seem to be a pretty solid team.
Here are the results after pool play, and the play-in games:

http://www.usssa.com/sports/Tournament3.asp?TournamentID=728430

Edited by - Hillio on 03/13/2011 08:22:41
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thegoat

29 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2011 :  08:09:31  Show Profile
Congrats to Ringgold Baseball Factory!!Boys looked strong.
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CenterField

138 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2011 :  08:51:31  Show Profile
Congratulations to Ringold for winning the tournament. They had a great run on Sunday with some solid pitching and timely hitting. There were a lot of good games over the weekend and a few surprising results along the way.
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Enine

66 Posts

Posted - 03/14/2011 :  11:12:36  Show Profile
Some very close games in the quarter final games preventing some of the favorites and #1 seeds from moving on to the semis.

Kudos to Southern Baseball for a great tournament. Congratz to the boys from Ringold BF on their win. An impressive win against the EC Yankees (6-1) on their road to the ship.
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