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yankeedad
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 Posted - 06/09/2012 : 21:29:44
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| Obviously not the tourney to save pitching early....coaches need to adjust |
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Spartan4
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Posted - 06/09/2012 : 22:37:04
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Originally posted by Cooper
Dude,
The obvious answer to that problem is to play defense. Control what you can. Pray about the rest. 
I agree with that, but it is a little easier to play defense against an extremely weak team versus another solid major team.....I couldn't agree more about the control what you can comment......Pretty dissapointed with our showing this weekend...Can't figure it out!! |
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rakin
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Posted - 06/09/2012 : 22:45:40
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Originally posted by baseballnut33
When the tournament says you are in or out on runs allowed alone and some teams played against a team that in which it was easy to score runs and then didn't need to exhibit strong defense it is unbalanced. A lot of teams went 1-1. The ones that played tough compitition didn't make it when they should have. They should all have continued on. We all know it. Just saying.
Huh? So, it is based on runs allowed, you play a team for whom you can score a lot of runs on, so you are allowed to give up runs or play lax defense and still win. Eventhough, some of the 1-1 teams, that were "unfairly" relegated to the silver bracket get blown out by double digits in their one loss. What would you base the tie breaker on? Reputation of the team to whom they lost? How about not getting your doors blown off and playing a little defense! All teams in the gold bracket earned it! |
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baseballnut33
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Posted - 06/10/2012 : 00:54:07
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| It was just luck of the draw. No way rays and longhorns shouldn't have been there. This was ridiculous. Some in the bracket just slipped in by playing an extremely weak team as opposed to facing competion. You know I am not saying any team should be given a free ticket or any team shouldn't have to put on good defense. It is just the format of this double elimination where some teams didn't have an equal opportunity. |
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OffSpeed
40 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2012 : 09:47:58
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The reason that you begin each tournament with a round of Pool games "should" be to determine the better teams at that point in the season. This would then be used to separate the better teams in the bracket so that the "current" better teams do not face themselves early in the bracket. In a Double Elimination tournament this becomes a little less important.
This tournament "Seeded" the Pools! The top two teams (based on Point$ to Utrip) had the opportunity to skate to the Gold Bracket. The middle 10 teams had to fight for low runs allowed, and the bottom 2 teams were sunk when they wrote the check. All-in-all, I believe (that means it is just my opinion, worthless), that the format for this tournament was flawed from the beginning no matter who the teams are. IT'S A BAD PLAN!
BBNUT, The Rays and the Longhorns are fantastic teams! But have shown signs of struggle this week. Heard this morning that the Rays lost in the first round of the consolation bracket. Again a great team that just didn't have it this week. You have to remember that last week in the TC Tournament you were allowed to establish new unrestricted roster, this week should have been played with frozen rosters from April (I believe). It's late in the season and we are seeing more and more injuries (typical for this age group, a lot of bodily changes) that are slowing the kids down a little bit.
CHANGES.... It's why we plan the game! |
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Outback
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Posted - 06/10/2012 : 10:50:49
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This is baseball, every team has to come ready to play. If not this is the result u get. Excuses, Excuses
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Originally posted by baseballnut33
It was just luck of the draw. No way rays and longhorns shouldn't have been there. This was ridiculous. Some in the bracket just slipped in by playing an extremely weak team as opposed to facing competion. You know I am not saying any team should be given a free ticket or any team shouldn't have to put on good defense. It is just the format of this double elimination where some teams didn't have an equal opportunity.
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baseballnut33
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Posted - 06/10/2012 : 14:12:38
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| Offspeed, you said it exactly right. IT WAS A BAD PLAN. My point exactly. Some teams made it to this bracket that all in all shouldn't over some that didn't. With no chance for recovery. |
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mstimpson
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2012 : 17:49:39
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| Hello all! Felt the need to chime in with my opinion and this does not represent my team in any way! We were one of the "1-1" teams that made it into the gold bracket. I hear and understand that the format may be flawed, but we have all been around this long enough to know what we signed up for this weekend! Heck, based on the format, we were one of the "lowest" ranked pool teams, but put together a decent run. I personally do not think it is fair to state we did not belong or deserve to be in the gold bracket. We did what we needed to do on the field to give ourselves a chance to play in the gold bracket. Two of the teams to whom we lost are in the final four and those were two hard fought games. Some teams were on this weekend and some were not. Isn't this why we play the games? Now, it would be great to be able to discuss how competitive 12U ball is in Georgia and the hidden gems like NYO or CC Bulldogs that make impressive runs. I loved the parity and level of ball that was played this weekend. Also, the AAA teams that stepped up this weekend to challenge themselves. Give credit where credit is due! It was or should have been well known that one must go either undefeated or 1-1 with low runs allowed gets you in the gold. Good luck to all the rest of the season! |
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southernboy21
23 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2012 : 18:07:27
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| Since the tournament was cancelled who ends up getting 1st place Braves or Astros???? |
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Baseballready22
107 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2012 : 20:18:57
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| If they do it like the 10's, team with the fewest runs allowed should get 1st place....Astros gave up 3, Braves gave up 5. |
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JJJ
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Posted - 06/10/2012 : 22:32:13
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| I think the braves and Astros had the top pre tournament seeds because they had a lot of points for winning super NITs. That was the rumor at the park as to why it was seeded the way it was. |
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moccs
349 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2012 : 10:18:10
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| Our team went 1-1 in pool play and the two teams that we played in pool play both made it to the gold bracket. The format is what it is and was stated prior to the event. We decided that we would burn pitching to make the Gold bracket realizing that perhaps we wouldnt make it deep into the bracket. A few of the teams in the bottom probably tried to conserve pitching and their strategy didnt work. I think we have a better arguement due to the fact that we were required to play both of our games on Friday night which is a big disdavantage when others were able to play on Wednesday and Thursday nights. We cant complain about the matchups because they were strictly by the book with usssa. As a matter of fact once the teams were entered we were able to determine our opponents before they were even posted. If however teams like the Carrol County Lions or Copperheads would have entered the tourney then they would have played the aaa teams because they would be top seeds and then teams would have complained about playing Braves and Astros in pool play and having no chance to make gold bracket. We usually face the same issue in TC (whose format I like with two or three brackets). Almost always in pool play we get at least one or two major teams in pool play while others get two aa or aa teams. At that time you make a decision to burn pitching and make top or save pitching and try to win silver bracket!!Looks like Astros win this tourney. |
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gatorboy1
56 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2012 : 11:47:30
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braves and astros had the most points, looks like the stros were awarded 1st place but should there be an * by it?
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Originally posted by JJJ
I think the braves and Astros had the top pre tournament seeds because they had a lot of points for winning super NITs. That was the rumor at the park as to why it was seeded the way it was.
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Ball-Four
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Posted - 06/11/2012 : 18:12:57
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Originally posted by mstimpson
Hello all! Felt the need to chime in with my opinion and this does not represent my team in any way! We were one of the "1-1" teams that made it into the gold bracket. I hear and understand that the format may be flawed, but we have all been around this long enough to know what we signed up for this weekend! Heck, based on the format, we were one of the "lowest" ranked pool teams, but put together a decent run. I personally do not think it is fair to state we did not belong or deserve to be in the gold bracket. We did what we needed to do on the field to give ourselves a chance to play in the gold bracket. Two of the teams to whom we lost are in the final four and those were two hard fought games. Some teams were on this weekend and some were not. Isn't this why we play the games? Now, it would be great to be able to discuss how competitive 12U ball is in Georgia and the hidden gems like NYO or CC Bulldogs that make impressive runs. I loved the parity and level of ball that was played this weekend. Also, the AAA teams that stepped up this weekend to challenge themselves. Give credit where credit is due! It was or should have been well known that one must go either undefeated or 1-1 with low runs allowed gets you in the gold. Good luck to all the rest of the season!
last time I checked, one of the kids on the AAA SPARTANS threw a 2-hit Shut-Out against the ECB RAYS, Saturday night!!!Who is this guy? |
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